As the title kinda speaks the entire speil I’m about to write, there’s not a real reason for you to read this, but complain enough until gaijin fixes/adds the proper one to the game.
The ItPsV 90, it’s loved by most, and feared by aircraft and tanks alike. It’s a lovely SPAA, with great mobility, and stabilizers. Great ammo choices, and dispite the DM-13 being a “anti armor” belt as well as the DM-23 belts, DM-13 is better as anti air because it blows the aircraft up from the inside (no, this is not an innuendo), leading to missing wings and control surfaces. This thing is an absolute menace to everything, essentially, if it drive’s, the turret will fly, if it fly, it goes goodbye. But one thing is completely incorrect. It’s not even the ItPsV 90. The true ItPsV 90 is built on the T-55 chassis with slightly lower mobility and armor. The one in game is not the ItPsV 90 at all, but rather an upgrade for the turret to be fitted to the Leopard 2 hull, hence getting the Finnish name “Leopard 2 Marksman” just like the British “Cheiftain Marksman.” As what we have in the game is not the ItPsV 90 either we need the right one in the game, or the name properly changed. Thank you!
Here are images of the same system on the different hull’s with proper designation:
I hate to be this guy, but this should be in the Machinery of War section of the forum. The only reason I bring this up is because I have seen an uptick of posts like this get closed and a note being left mentioning the Machinery of War section.
That aside, that would be cool to have the T-55 chassis version. I love using the radar guided gun SPAA.
So we - we just arent going to talk about the Gepard at 8.3? The thing has search and track radars, a much better hull/mobility (than the T-55), and - cough cough - Russia at 7.7 with the Z-S-U-37-2 and Z-S-U-23-4 at 8.0.
Since they changed the designation I am hoping for a seperate ItPsV 90 to be added, possibly as an event vehicle but I want a full Maavoimat lineup so it better be TT
ItPsV is a generic designation, Literally standing for “Anti-Aircraft Tank,” just like LvKv in the swedish, being a generic designator for “Anti-Aircraft gun carriage.” Both have a little tag behind to denote the specified model, in this case, ItPsV 90 and ItPsV Leo 2 Mrksmn. just as LvKv 42 and LvKv 9040
Except here, in a first hand source, it’s not called ‘ItPsV Leo 2 Mrksmn’ but rather ‘ITPSV 90 Marksman’. It’s another Itpsv 90, both are. My understanding is that Itpsv 90 really refers to the anti-aircraft system itself, so the Marksman turret, and that the hull doesn’t matter. Leopard 2 is sometimes added to be specific but just calling it Itpsv 90 or Itpsv 90 Marksman isn’t wrong. So long as the original Itpsv 90 (T-55 hull) isn’t added it’s not necessarily in need of being specified either
Yeah, the ITPSV 90 Marksman is its correct name. Used by FDF in publications and as someone who used do work on FDF Leo 2’s, etc including the marksman, its official name is ITPSV 90 Marksman beyond its armour registry number (Ps 473).
Any speculations regarding the real (T-55AM based) ItPsV 90 spotted in the video? Perhaps this should be treated as a teaser, and they’ll add it in the next update. If what we saw is a proper, functioning model of the vehicle, surely it will be introduced soon, right?
I was hyped soon as I spotted it when the trailer released. I sure hope it comes.
But honestly, it will 100% be a collector item rather than a necessary vehicle. It will probably be put at same br as chieftain marksman, so 0.4br lower than leopard marksman.
I don’t know about that, I don’t think Gaijin really want to add SPAA as event or premium vehicles, with the ZUT-37 being an exception to that rule. If it comes at some point, my best guess is it’ll be a tech tree SPAA.
I agree on that, it’s actually kind of similar to the Chieftain Marksman when you think about it; both being relatively slow chassis’ with very potent anti-aircraft turrets slapped on top.
Perhaps the ItPsV 90 could take the ItPsV Leopards place in the TT, with the latter being foldered under the former?
