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and as you can see in my post, HE-T (High Explosive Tracer) is one of the rounds talked about and shown. i.e not a training round.

Again. Devs knew about it. Even report about incorrect ammunition mention HE-T. And still the developers remove the tracers because one tracer was a training round and the other one was never used, even though it could have been.

The new decision about tracers is not based on new information. The new decision is the right one. But the logic behind it is wrong.

Sounds like I can finally pick up the J-35XS now that it has a usable gun that someone like me, who hasn’t flown it yet, can learn.

The report does not mention the HE-T?
It only states that it exists in game but shouldn’t.
No mention that it actually exists irl and was used.

If the tracers exist for the gun, it’s not quite unhistorical. “They didn’t really use it” isn’t a good reason to not include something that’s good for the gameplay, imo.

100 mm BR-412D APCBC didn’t exist when the T-44-100 and T-34-100 were made, yet that doesn’t stop those tanks from firing it in-game because technically it would work. Same thing applies to the F-89 firing proximity fused rockets, and the SU-122P firing BR-471D.

I do not know about everyone else, but on the whole, these changes look great! Very happy the crew actually will know what grid square they are shooting at now, too. XD

HE-T = HEI-T

Tracer: none = Spårljus: Saknas

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Did I deny it anywhere?

Not by Sweden. They never used heat in strv so they don’t get it in game. Why that should be different? Same case. Again, return tracers was a right decision but logic behind that is bad.

The actual question should be where did type 5876 round come from. Cause that’s not a Swedish naming designation.

Finally getting tracer belts is gonna be so helpful.

I don’t know why you are discussing whether Swedish planes with tracer ammunition are unhistorical or not. The real problem is that my German Mi-24P(The Premium) has no stealth belts.

Seeing the Strv 103 getting some HEAT rounds would be funny, but in-historical, but still possible.

nope, it isn’t. HE-T = High Explosive Tracer, HEI-T = High Explosive Incendiary Tracer.
and again, it does not mention the tracer variant as a thing that exists. the report only states that THE GAME has it but it doesn’t exist in real life (which it does).

for that specific link combo yes. there is WAY to little information in those images. I’ll try to find the original document and see.

yes. " However, IRL, Akan m/55 only had two types of ammunition(except for training ammunition), AP and HEI , just like the 30mm ADEN, and there was no tracer ."

no. never said you did, but other have.

Ahahahahaahha. Find for me at least 1 ammo that called HE with caliber less than 40mm (except rank 1 tanks). I’ll wait.

HE ammunition in caliber less than 40mm is either HEI or HEF. Your HE-T is HEI-T.

Ammunitionskatalog Data och bilder Flygvapnet (1984)

JAS39 ammo:

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random google result:

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just because it has a name in game does not mean they don’t exist irl.

and the repost does not say that “HEI-T” exists irl, but mentions it only as an in game thing that should not be there.

i know, but its not really just out there for anyone to find…

All right. I will try at my free time to look more specifically about the name of high-explosive ammunition in the official documentation.

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To bad you didn’t give us a option to disable battle mode like night battles.

well, i can immediately see two issues:
at the very beginning of the document it states (loosely translated) “this catalogue contains the main part of the air force ammunition and their respective data”. main part, as in not everything. it continues: “some ammunition such as limited amounts has been left out of the catalogue”
and:
(loosely translated and shortened) “restricted use of some ammunition, such as only use in war, is not listed in this catalogue for security reasons”

i also saw this :
“if the projectiles identifying color is yellow, the tracer is made in the same year as the projectile and the projectile normally has tracer then the markings for tracer can be completely left out. such is the case with the majority of projectiles in the range 20-57mm slsgr”
perhaps not applicable here but interesting none the less.