It is time for ECM

I think its time to introduce ECM, with the advent of AESA radars, datalink, etc. I know that you can just hug the ground, but that isn’t really promoting good use of skill, and also somehow every continous rod missile in the game somehow has an 1000lb warhead behind it.

Right now, almost every top tier plane already has ECM systems implemented into their onboard aircraft (IE Tornado IDS Elt/553 series), or has attachable pods (Ie Su-34), or both. Even many cold war aircraft carry these in more rudimentery and basic forms, though likely do not need these systems since their radars are not genuine alien tech from mars. Soon enough we are going to get radars like Bars, APG-83, etc which in Warthunder’s current state would be devastating.

Though ECM wouldn’t be a sure fire way to defeat radar missiles, there would still obviously be weaknesses, but in general it would promote both one-on-one dogfights and promote high altitude BVR/dogfights. Additionally, unlike many current implementation of weaponry and systems, I dont think only top tier fighters should get it, in addition attackers like Su-24, Tornado, etc which suffer from lack of defense or counter-attack ability would greatly benefit.

Would you like to see ECM?

  • Yes
  • No
  • Other (Please explain)
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Its definetly the next logical step for A2A combat instead of throwing every more capable aircraft and weapons at each other, to work on upgrades in the counter measures department and not just ECMs but also

  • IR Signature overhaul
  • CM overuals (Especially things like BOL)
  • Towed Radar Decoys?
  • RCS reduction
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They’ll overhaull everything but BOL because of one particular plane.

I have to admit that I’m not necessarily too keen on adding ECM in the current state of the game, some planes are going to get MASSIVE buffs if it was added now and some other planes just wouldn’t be able to make the cut in the game. For example, adding ECM capabilities to French aircraft equipped with them would, in my opinion, be a mistake at the moment (I am French and I mainly play France, I am not trying to discriminate against any particular country but French ECMs are particularly renowned, notably on the Mirage 2000 and the Rafale)

However, this addition could be interesting through the addition of certain aircraft dedicated to this role (which do not pose a problem in the game in terms of balancing), I am thinking in particular of the Prowler, the Su-24 MP or the Tornado ECR which could be added and have a support role for the other players using their jamming capabilities.

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But having ECMs is promoting a good use of skill ?

+1 Should already be a thing.

More things to make killing others harder should be added rather than making it easier with adding AIM-123459C100 and R-10000000-1 kill all missiles.

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Too little known info, too many balancing concerns

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Comrade, the solution is always: decompression

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Yes, pls, at least some buff to ASA

At the very least in the next 2 updates they should bring radar interference and flooding.
Now every radar is AESA…
Also, having strong radar should be an asset, less vulnerable to interference more likely to flood the opponent.

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Another thing, Ground RB is so abandoned, we need more focus on that for a while before we go on Air again, Air is VASTLY ahead

While i agree with you with Ground RB specifically being behind , Air Rb as a gamemode needs remake.
It’s not about vehicles mechanics when you talk about game modes.
Air RB is a deathmatch, and that’s that. Not that Ground RB is far behind in how bad gameplay is .
But the topic is about ECM , not about game modes. ECM will affect EVERY game mode , i think you got confused with EC mode, Enduring Confrontation…

No, I know its Electronic Countermeasures, Air has gotten tons of new mechanics and gameplay levels whilst Ground has gotten nothing. Ground has electronic warfare too, or new sensor mechanics, etc. and yet Gaijin has added nothing like that, whilst Air has gotten RCS mechanics, Fox-3, AESA radars, etc.

the Bars is already in the game on the Su-30
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Ground would also benefit from ecm. (Or suffer depending on your view)

I really want this but i fear the flood of “my f5 cannot dodge missiles, lower its br” threads.

Doesn’t the Tomcat already have a notoriously hot signature? That’d be make for interesting threads

Yeah… They’ve swapped from.single release to dual release on the flares and are freaking out. It’s hilarious.

But yeah, the moment they realise they can’t 1 tap flare everything, they’ll want it at 9.3

I like the idea of ECM in the long-term (Because Rafale would benefit) but right now IR rework would be great

Having the ECM capabilities of the Rafale modeled in the game currently would be hilarious, the missiles would go anywhere in air battles and in tank battles the anti-aircraft guns wouldn’t even be able to see it anymore.