the usability extends to higher battleratings because strela is very good for close ranges, many top tier players bring it with them
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For example? Strictly speaking about Israeli stuff
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HVSD/ADAMS would be one, it has around 12km range missiles and close in weapon system
And even perhaps some from a sub tree of sorts.
I highly doubt it will be at such low BR. I suggested this because of the lower BR, and even then, aside from the ADAMS, Israel only has the SPYDER left for vehicles of their possession.
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Glad to see you managed to find the needed sources!
The Strela is still one of the strongest SPAAs for this BR range, so it would help with a combo Machbet + Strela (it would certainly take the place of the Drakon if they keep ignoring the smokeless motor bug).
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literally one of the only vehicles that doesn’t need it.
A general “Maybe” from me, mainly due to the fact Israel needs more potent top tier SPAA. However there is one drawback to note, it’s a Strela-1 and as such it uses the older 9M13 missile rather than the current 9M37M found ingame on the other Strela-10 platform. From what I understand the potency of this platform would be limited due to this, as it would lack photo-contrast (the unique quality of the Strela’s ingame which prevent them from being fooled by countermeasures and makes them so deadly ingame). It might be a 10.0 platform because of this, but gaijin can always be nice and give it the more modern missile. Just something to keep in mind when considering this vehicle. It could be something so noteworthy it leaves this vehicle at a BR already covered and prevents it from being a necessary addition. If it can help the tree overall where it’s lacking despite these drawbacks, than absolutely a big +1 from me!
It would cover a completely different range than the suggested vehicle here would. That says the has a radar, radar guided missiles, and a massive rotary cannon. It would be placed at a much higher BR range.
(Goodness you’re making a lot of edits xD, rip the 12 in total)
Don’t forget the additional amount provided through ammo boxes!
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I looked for hours without end for more info about the vehicle, so typing mistakes and things I took wrong were typed, but those are edited to be correct now
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For the first time ever, I’m voting no. We don’t need more Soviet SAMs invading other tech trees.
I’ve discovered two experimental Israeli SAMs that could be implemented instead of this:
M-240 ADMS (TD32) - uses Strela-2/2M SAMs
M113 ADMS - uses Mistral SAMs
Both of these have very little known info on them, but are still more domestic and worthy of addition than this, in my opinion.
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As much as I respect you for being a contributing member of the Shiryon Archive research community, I must say I oppose to the addition of this vehicle.
It undermines the original vehicles which we have discovered before, adds to the “Israel is copy-paste” argument, and in general adds nothing to the game itself.
Additionally, even though I do infact believe whole-heartedly this vehicle was captured. I have yet to see proof that it was in service with the IDF, while the same can be said about the already in-game Israeli ZSU-57-2, I oppose to the addition of such vehicles.
Best of luck,
Sisay E.
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It’s a thing with a thingy, why not
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+1 even in the presence of more unique options. The 9K37M is just such a potent missile and I can’t imagine the 9K31M being too much worse. I would take it over any boof-ass MANPAD-based system any day.
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it is very bad. no-full aspect ability on IR channel, only optical can get a head-on lock, and shorter range, about 4km.
I’m sorry but how is this “much needed”? Israel’s already got the Machbet and Chaparral, why would there be a need for another ~9.7 SPAA?
And yes the 9K31 would be ~9.7. Only 4 missiles and while they may share the same name the 9m31 Strela-1 and 9M37 Strela-10 are very different missiles, with the latter being longer-ranged, more agile, and with a much better seeker.
Oh well. I’ll still take this one since multiple nations could get it at the same time.
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I see that there is a question about the difference between the 9M31 and the 9M37 missiles.
Could someone please explain in a bit of detail how the performance differs between them? This would make the decision process over this vehicle a bit clearer.
9M31 is smaller, shorter range, about 4km effective range(9m37m is 5km)
no-full aspect ability on IR channel, only optical mode can get a head-on lock
anyway, when there is Chaparral and other manpad carrier choices
Why don’t they give Israel the top-tier air defense system?The Spider air defense system is quite good,but because its performance is better than that of the Pantsir,the developers don’t want to include it.Otherwise,Soviet faction players wouldn’t be able to enjoy close air support(CAS)as much.
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So the 9M31 would be IR only, rear aspect 4km range. What about IRCCM?
clearly no IRCCM. but optical mode should be able to ignore some flares