Israel Tanks Missing!

[PumaKing247]

So my question is why does Israel start at a pathetic 6.0 with the worst ammo ever when there was clearly plenty of earlier tanks available?? Granted these were apparently stolen but lets face facts - when it comes to realistic in Warthunder it does stretch a bit!

Israel acquired its first functional tanks in May 1948, just days after declaring independence. These were two British Cromwell tanks stolen from the British army by Jewish sympathizers, which were quickly followed by a shipment of second hand Sherman tanks that arrived in November 1948. (Tanks of the Israel Defense Forces - Wikipedia), 2, 3, 4, 5]

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• The Stolen Cromwells (May 1948): Two British soldiers defected and drove two Cromwell tanks out of a British military base, handing them over to the Haganah (the precursor to the Israel Defense Forces). [1, 2, 3, 4]
• The “Meir” Sherman (May 1948): Concurrently, Israeli forces managed to acquire and patch up an abandoned, damaged M4 Sherman tank nicknamed “Meir”. [1, 2]
• First Official Shipment (November 1948): Ten additional Sherman tanks (originally missing their main guns) were clandestinely shipped and delivered to the port of Haifa. [1]
• First Combat: Three of these early Shermans and one Cromwell first saw operational action during Operation Horev in December 1948. [1]

The above tanks are just a few selections of tanks the tech tree SHOULD have!!! Cant see why its overlooked or just ignored.!!!
Playing 6.0 with the WORST ever M4 is just dumb in my opinion.!! Barely worth 5.0!

[Savage-SRC]

There is an entire suggestion on this forum for full rank 1-3 of Israeli ground (I believe the same person made similar suggestion for air + Chilean sub-tree as a bonus)

So far devs did not really consider – or, at least, haven’t shown interest publicly – on giving lower-rank ground vehicles to Israel.

It would definitely be great to have them, but I doubt we will see them anytime soon as devs would rather introduce Greek/Cypriot sub-trees to Israel rather than finish the actual Israeli TT from rank 1…

[PumaKing247]

Couldnt find it to be fair when searching.,… if the Mods know the post then great!

[PlayedStatue626-live]

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Ranks I-III for the Israeli aviation tech tree (with a revision of rank IV)

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[Savage-SRC]

Israeli early Ground forces (rank 1-2-3)

poll caid’s suggestion #144 [image] I would like to make the most needed suggestion for Israel. the Rank 1, 2 & 3 [image] For me having Israel starting at rank 4 is simply doom to discourage the players from playing Israel. right now the requirement to play Israel is to have unlocked a rank 4 vehicle from the UK, USA, France, or Russia. which from the start it kind of pushes them away. Israel does not have much to offer for the rank 1-2-3, in its tree. t…

Turns out it was actually passed for consideration – still doesn’t mean they’ll come, but they are there on the table

[Savage-SRC]

Damn, literally at almost the same moment

[PlayedStatue626-live]

Twinsies or something like that

[GranColombia]

I believe that the safest thing is that by including the subtrees (Greece-Cyprus), BR 1, 2 and 3 will be gradually included in Israel by air and ground.

[Milashny_Koteyka]

@PumaKing247

So my question is why does Israel start at a pathetic 6.0 with the worst ammo ever when there was clearly plenty of earlier tanks available??

Because its first really israeli modification there is, and having 1.0-5.7 made up of garbage c&p lowtiers everyone skips ASAP is stupid. Its maybe the ONLY thing gaijin did right with this tech tree.

@PumaKing247

WORST ever M4

basically best sherman there is, tat even got uptiered as it slaps tigers and panthers so bad it looks like a revenge for camps.

[gfdsa_killer]

I would say because of copy paste, but then you see the chinese low tier TT…

[PumaKing247]

Not being funny - but someone at the Devs office thought it would be a good idea to 70% usage challenge on the battle pass with 1 - yes ONE tank available! I mean talk about stupidity in planning.!