IAF have got F16D and F15c BAZ meshupar, but where’s the accurate cas loading？Israel have the earliest CAS combat experiences in the world. Since GAIJIN would not give the maverick to IAF, so obviously IAF should get his more powerful BOMBS.
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agreed
Interestingly, Gaijin did not give Israel the F-15C. He is still the F-15A. The radar is the most rubbish in the three new F15s this time because there is no TWS. Before the repeated, it was only given to the United States F-16 Block52, while Israel could only have a worse F-16 Block40.
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Yeap, the gimped it at the last sec after 2 weeks of dev server which had the APG-63(v)1 and now its a gimped buggy mess radar.
They could go with F15C Akef but nah , its better just to show 1 thing in dev server for 2 weeks straight and completely change it in live server.
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Not only that but soon we will get the F-15I and it has no damn domestic munitions?? At this point it’s absurd. Russia gets all sorts of good munitions literally every update while NATO is left to starve with either severely nerfed versions of their stuff (brimstones) or nothing. The thing is, lots of aircraft ingame could get Israeli munitions other than Israeli ones:
- The American F-15C and F-15E could get access to AGM-142A/B/C/Ds which are Popeye AGMs in US service (A = blast-frag warhead with TV seeker, B = blast-frag warhead with Imaging IR seeker, C = AP warhead with blast-frag warhead, D = AP warhead with Imaging IR seeker)
- Australian F-111C can get AGM-142E, an American-upgraded Popeye AGM similar to the AGM-142D but with a few upgrades, such as a new IIR Z-seeker, a new inertial measurement unit, an improved airframe and motor, and new and more modern hardware and software.
- Gripen and Tornado could possibly get SPICE bombs, Rafael is quite vague about which variants of those aircraft and which countries use them.
- Italian Tornado and AMX could get Lizard LGBs, the Brazilian AMX already has them (yea that’s right a Brazilian aircraft got Lizard LGBs before any Israeli aircraft).
- Any aircraft that gets Lizard LGBs could also get Opher IR-guided bombs which use the same guidance kit but with an IR seeker instead of a laser seeker
- Jaguar IS could get Griffin LGBs
- Other aircraft I forgot to mention or yet to be added could receive Israeli munitions
The Baz Meshupar ingame is based on the F-15C. The BAZ-2000 program was applied to all of the regular Eagle variants of Israel so Gaijin could still bring the rest of the Eagle variants post-BAZ-2000 upgrade. Perhaps an event vehicle?
iirc the specific version of the F-15C Israel got could not use AMRAAMs, so the BAZ-2000 upgrade added that capability to all Israeli Eagles who previously could not.
The problem is that Israeli aircraft obviously lack performance without its own domestic ammunition.
AGM-142 is always expressed as unbalanced in the game, and Israel’s own domestic ammunition SPICE is reluctant to produce, which leads to Israel’s F-16D to F-15I. No Israeli aircraft is normal and all crippled🧑🦼. Do you think this is reasonable?
Some may say that it will appear soon and just need to give it some more time, but the problem is that the report of F-16D’s lack of Spice was submitted and approved as early as a year ago. Now the F-16D still has not obtained it, and Smin has recently responded that the F-15I’s Spice still has no timetable, which means that perhaps in more than a year, the F-15I will still be incomplete.
If you want to express that the F-15I is still balanced despite its lack of CAS capability, then this discussion does not need to be continued, because it is worthless and meaningless.
A sad, sad reality for us Israeli players, especially since the Ra’am has been a major point of excitement for us all and is coming in a very incomplete state :(
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I’m the biggest advocate for domestic Israeli munitions in the Shiryon Archice discord server. Me and my colleagues work a lot to find info on known weapons and attempt to find unknown weaons. Trust me when U say this: you have no idea just how many different domestic munitions Israeli aircraft can get, not just the latest ones.
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I understand your efforts, but the problem is that despite your great time, Gaijin still did a terrible job on Israeli aircraft, just like now, do you think it is reasonable that the upcoming F-15I will be worse than the F-15E in terms of CAS capability? Do you think it is reasonable for the F-16D to maintain this state for a full year?
At least as a player, I will say that I feel unfair treatment in what I play, instead of trying to cover other people’s mouths with some kind of “identity”.
Ah, not wrong
I’m curious F-15I Ra’am F-16C Block 30 & 40 and F-16I Sufa only armed SPICE 2000 ?
And F-16C Block 30 & 40 Barak I and F-16D Block 30 Barak II carries 4 SPICE 2000 like F-16I Sufa ?
have they added spice-250 yet
Unfortunately, there is still none, and Smin said in a reply that Gaijin has not had any time plan for adding Spice until now. I’m afraid we won’t see them until 2026 or 2027.
bruh
absolute bullshit…
they can just do another Brimstone moment and add it as basically a SDB. its even on the F-15
Yes, so the problem is that Gaijin did not care to bring something good for Israel. He submitted and passed the SPICE report of the F-16D a year ago, but now, a year later, our F-15I has arrived, but SPICE has still not been produced.
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