Israel is the worst nation to play in, and Raam Sagol is a useless headache

[cursive-stare87]

Arjun Mk.1 (P) (Rank VII; BR 10.3)

The Arjun Mk.1 (P) is one of the first prototypes of the Arjun, being built in 1993, having a more turret closer to the final model now features a raised gunsight, and was key in testing the new 120mm Rifled Cannon, and would lead to the creation of the PPS (Pre-Production Series ) Arjuns, PPS-1 - PPS-14.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH)
  • 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~30 km/h Back

Arjun Mk.1 Early (Rank VII; BR 10.7)

The Arjun Mk.1 Early refers to the first limited-production run Arjuns based on the PPS-15, the final prototype and basis of the standard Arjun tank, PPS-15 built 1997 and the production run beginning in 1999. The Early Arjuns still used the sight found on the prototypes although now embedded in the turret 2A4-style and now has properly equipped GEN.1 Kanchan Armor, and now sees the inclusion of the commanders sight and roof MG.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
  • 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
  • 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~30 km/h Back

Arjun Mk.1 (Rank VII; BR 10.7)

The Standard Mk.1 is the regular serial production of the Arjun tanks from 2003-2018, with slightly improved Armor, a much improved gunner sight, and the shifting of the smoke grenades to the rear of the turret, and better electronation of equipment (although this doesn’t really matter in-game), and is now equipped with the SAMHO gun-launched ATGM.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, SAMHO, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
  • 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
  • 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~30 km/h Back

Arjun Mk.1 VIRCM (Rank VII; BR 11.0)

The Arjun Mk.1 VIRCM is a Arjun Mk.1 equipped with a soft-kill APS system designed by the Israeli-Company Elbit Systems, seeing its smoke launchers replaced with spectral smoke launcher mounted to the front of the turret and now is equipped with a IRCM emitter on the turret as well, similar to the T-90A’s Shtora system or the M1A1 HC.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, SAMHO, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
  • 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
  • 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite) + VIRCM Soft-Kill APS
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~30 km/h Back

Arjun Mk.2 (P) (Rank VIII; BR 11.7)

The Arjun Mk.2/IA prototype was first seen in 2018, being a Heavily-Upgraded Mk.I tank, seeing the addition of ERA and Composite blocks to the front and sides to the tank, a (TW) mine-plow, a upgraded gun and engine, new electronics, suspension, turret bustle, and GEN.2 Kanchan Armor. However with these additions, the Mk.IA prototype looses the commander’s sight and roof MG.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, SAMHO, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
  • 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite, ERA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~30 km/h Back

Arjun Mk.1A (Rank VIII; BR 12.0)

The Arjun Mk.IA is the most advanced Arjun tank to date, first seeing production in 2019, and is slowly replacing the Mk.I Arjuns currently in service. The completed tank now features a 12.7mm RCWS, a LWS, upgraded commander’s sights, and over 70 additional upgrades to the tank.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 120mm ARDE Cannon (APFSDS, HEAT, HESH, SAMHO, TB… and… :)… PCB…)
  • 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (RCWS)
  • 1x 7.62mm MAG Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • ??mm - ???mm (RHA, CHA, Kanchan Composite, ERA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~30 km/h Back

[AlvisWisla]

Point proven.

[cursive-stare87]

Ajeya Mk.1 (Rank VII; BR 9.3):

A good ol’ Imported T-72M1…

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 125mm 2A46 Cannon (APFSDS, HE)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • 40mm - 400mm (RHA, CHA)
• Mobility:
  • 67 km/h Forward
  • 5 km/h Back

Ajeya Mk.2 (Rank VII; BR 9.7):

A T-72 with minor improvements and the addition of ERA blocks.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 125mm 2A46 Cannon (APFSDS, HE)
  • 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • 40mm - 400mm (RHA, CHA), +370mm (ERA)
• Mobility:
  • 67 km/h Forward
  • 5 km/h Back

CI Ajeya (Rank VII; BR 10.0):

A modernized “Combat Improved” Ajeya tank, seeing a new engine, new FCS, TFS, Radio, Navigation, and Optical systems, and now is also capable of firing CLGMs.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 125mm 2A46 Cannon (APFSDS, HE, ATGM)
  • 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • 40mm - 400mm (RHA, CHA), +370mm (ERA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~10 km/h Back

Atharva (Rank VII; BR 10.3):

A modernization program for the Ajeya tank, essentially just seeing a T-90 Bhishma turret added on top.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 125mm 2A46M-5 Cannon (APFSDS, HEATFS, HE-TF, ATGM)
  • 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • 40mm - 400mm (RHA, CHA), +370mm (ERA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~10 km/h Back

Bhishma Mk.II (Rank VII; BR 10.7):

The Bhishma Mk.II is a relatively-minor upgrade to the Bhishma series, mainly only seeing the further indigenization of parts used in the tanks and minor improvements to the tank in general, first being built in the early 2010’s.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 125mm 2A46M-5 Cannon (APFSDS, HEATFS, HE-TF, ATGM)
  • 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • 30mm - 120mm (RHA), +420mm (ERA)
• Mobility:
  • 67 km/h Forward
  • 5 km/h Back

Bhishma Mk.III (Rank VIII; BR 11.7):

The Bhishma Mk.III is the latest version of the Bhishma to date, first being announced in May 2024, The Bhishma Mk.III sees significant upgrades, seeing a majority of its parts such as its thermals, engine, and LRF being designed and built in India, and now includes technologies and equipment found on India’s Arjun MBT’s such as its FCS, and is reportedly capable of firing the SAMHO ATGM and Mk.II APFSDS. Further technologies such as a APS, loitering munitions, and other upgrades are also planned for later production blocks.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 125mm 2A46M-5 Cannon (APFSDS, HEATFS, HE-TF, ATGM)
  • 1x 12.7mm KSV Machine Gun (Roof)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • 30mm - 120mm (RHA), +420mm (ERA)
• Mobility:
  • 67 km/h Forward
  • 5 km/h Back

Bhishma II (Rank VIII; BR 12.0):

The Bhishma II is to be locally-produced T-90MS for the Indian military, seeing a majority of its parts to be indigenously designed and built. Funding and a procurement of licenses have been ongoing for the last decade, however have largely been put on hold due to the current Russian war in Ukraine.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 125mm 2A46M-5 Cannon (APFSDS, HEATFS, HE, ATGM)
  • 1x 12.7mm 6P49MT Machine Gun (RCWS)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • 40mm - 400mm (RHA, CHA), +370mm (ERA)
• Mobility:
  • 67 km/h Forward
  • 5 km/h Back

[Circleati]

have you considered just copying the name instead of the entire description?

[Константинович7]

T-44 is a great evolution of the T-34, retaining the same mobility, light platform but better armor, T-54 introduces the T-44 as a main battle tank and the T-55 is a evolution of prior T-54 models with better fire control systems, T-62 is a separated vehicle, which we even have its predecessor which is the Object 140.

M47 is a mix better the M46 mobility and M48 firepower, M60 is something better of the M48 and the M60A1 and it’s modernization presents in fact better features compared to older models. Comparing to Israel, Magach 1 and Magach 2 are essentially the same vehicle (M48);

Magach 3, Magach 5 and Magach 6 are respectively the M60, M48 and M60A1, improved hull armor and ERA, which only the Magach 6A offer a better improvement after 4 of the same-same which is the better turrer values and improved design,

Magach 6B, Magach 6C, Magach 6M and Magach 6R are exactly the same in gameplay but obviously not in technical terms, only the Magach Hydra offer a completely new different vehicle with two Hydra rocket pods sticked into the tank,

When comes to actual armor improvements the Gal Batash and Magach 7C offers good values compared to the slop of Blazer ERA over the prior models before and the Sabra Mk. I is the peak, very good vehicle, comparing those to the Chinese main battle tanks, in my opnion is unrealistic, the only truly new vehicle Israel has to offer is the TCM-20, M-51 Super Sherman, Magach 7C and Gal Batash and the Merkava and its variations (Namer and Sholef), everything else is already in some tech tree like the M48s, AMX-13s and M109s.

[cursive-stare87]

Yes, But that can lead to misconceptions

[AlvisWisla]

That would be fore other users.
Ajeya Mk1 and 2 are copy-paste candidates.

The T-90MS I forgot about cause I forgot India made some… a copy paste candidate of T-90M.

The rest are the vehicles my post was addressing.

[Константинович7]

I would keep India as part of UK, I can’t imagine India being a separated tech tree when 5th generation fighter jets come to the game and the Forums not being turned into hell, if Gaijin actually is planning to add those vehicles.

[cursive-stare87]

Chakra Rath-BMP (Rank IV; BR 7.0):

A private venture by the OFB (Ordinance Factory Board) to create a wheeled APC based off a BMP-2 chassis.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 30mm 2A42 Autocannon (AP-T, APDS, HEF-I)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • 5mm - 30mm (RHA, CHA)
• Mobility:
  • 73 km/h Forward
  • 12 km/h Back

8x8 CBRN (Rank V; BR 7.3):

A APC built by Mahindra as their submission for India’s MIFV competition, to find India’s new APC.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • [RCWS Autocannon To Be Determined]
  • 1x 12.7mm NSV Machine Gun (RCWS)
• Armor:
  • [DATA UNKNOWN] (STANAG)
• Mobility:
  • [DATA UKNOWN]

Kestrel WhAP (Rank V; BR 7.3):

Indigenous design TATA’s submission to the MIFV competition to replace India’s BMP-2s, and is currently in service in its WhAP (Wheeled Assault Platform) configuration, however further variants are planned.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 30mm 2A42 Autocannon (AP-T, APDS, HEF-I)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • STANAG I - STANAG IV
• Mobility:
  • 100 km/h Forward
  • 10 km/h Forward (in Water)
  • [DATA UNKNOWN] km/h Back

Kestrel UT-30 (Rank V; BR 7.7):

A variant of the Kestrel, now equipped with a UT-30 turret, introducing advanced optics and FCS.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 30mm ATK Mk.44S Autocannon (APDS, APFSDS, HEF-I)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • STANAG I - STANAG IV
• Mobility:
  • 100 km/h Forward
  • 10 km/h Forward (in Water)
  • [DATA UNKNOWN] km/h Back

Medak (Rank VI; BR 8.7)

A heavily upgraded/modified Sarath BMPs produced by Ordinance Factory Medak, using an improved 30mm gun, better ATGMs, advanced eletronic systems, and a updated and better protected chassis & turret. Created as a current proposal for india’s FICV program, as a new IFV for india’s army.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 30mm 2A42 Autocannon (AP-T, APDS, HEF-I)
  • 2x ATGM Launchers
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • [DATA UKNOWN] (RHA, CHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~20 km/h Back

Sarath II (Rank VI; BR 9.0)

A heavily upgraded/modified Sarath BMP for india’s FICV program, see new technology/equipment, better armor, gun system, etc.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 30mm 2A42 Autocannon (AP-T, APDS, HEF-I)
  • 1x 9M113 ATGM Launcher
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • [DATA UKNOWN] (RHA, CHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~20 km/h Back

Abhay (Rank VII; BR 9.3)

A Tech Demonstrator built by India to prove its capabilities to build a APC. Program saw much success, and the APC had proven itself as a powerful vehicle, but was ultimately never adopted.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 40mm Bofors L/70 Autocannon (APFSDS, HE)
  • 1x 30mm AGS-17 Automatic Grenade Launcher
  • 2x BEL/MILAN ATGM Launcher
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • ??mm - ???mm (MCA, HHA, Titanium, DHSA, AFA, Composites, ERA)
• Mobility:
  • 70 km/h Forward
  • ?? km/h Back

Zorawar Mahajan (Rank VIII; BR 10.7)

The Zorawar Light tank under testing, losing the Nag missile launchers and the side pontoons.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 105mm Cockerill 3105 cannon (APFSDS, HESH, CLGM)
  • 1x 12.7mm NSV Machine Gun (RCWS)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • ??mm - ???mm (Aluminum, Kanchan Composite, STANAG 5)
• Mobility:
  • [DATA UNKOWN] km/h Forward
  • [DATA UNKOWN] km/h Back

Zorawar LT (Rank VIII; BR 11.0)

India’s newest light tank and response to the Chinese Type 15. While currently in testing, it is stated to enter service later in 2025.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 105mm Cockerill 3105 cannon (APFSDS, HESH, CLGM)
  • 2x Nag ATGM Launchers
  • 1x 12.7mm NSV Machine Gun (RCWS)
  • 1x 7.62mm PKT Machine Gun (Coax.)
• Armor:
  • ??mm - ???mm (Aluminum, Kanchan Composite, STANAG 5)
• Mobility:
  • [DATA UNKOWN] km/h Forward
  • [DATA UNKOWN] km/h Back

ACV IP Mk.IIA (Rank I; BR 1.0)

One of the first ever indigenous armored vehicles built by india, the ACV IP was built in the thousands and served in the East Indies and in North Africa.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 14mm Boys Anti-Tank Rifle (AP, AP-T)
  • 1x 7.7mm Bren Machine Gun (Pintle)
• Armor:
  • 8mm - 14mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • 90 km/h Forward
  • ~40 km/h Back

Garuda 105 (Rank III; BR 5.0)

A Mobile Light Howitzer System designed by Garuda to operate in mountainous regions

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 105mm Garuda 105 Howitzer (HE, HE-VT)
• Armor:
  • 10 - 20mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • 80 km/h Forward
  • 40 km/h Back

M-46 Catapult (Rank III; BR 5.7)

The Vijayanta Catapult is a Self-Propelled Howitzer that was used by the Indian Army from 1981-2021, being a lengthened Vijayanta hull with the turret replaced by a rearward-facing Soviet 130mm M-46 Howitzer. 100 systems were built and saw deployment in Operation Parakram in 2001 and Operation Zafran. Now-retired, the system has been replaced by the Arjun Catapult System and K-9 Vajra SPHs.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 130mm M-46 Howitzer (AP, HE, HE-VT)
• Armor:
  • 10 - 100mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~45 km/h Forward
  • ~10 km/h Back

TATA L/52 (Rank III; BR 5.7)

A Light-Weight Howitzer on a TATA truck, designed to operate in the mountains and deserts of India.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 155mm L/42 Howitzer (HE, HE-VT)
• Armor:
  • 10 - 30mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~45 km/h Forward
  • ~10 km/h Back

M-46 ACS (Rank IV; BR 6.7)

The Arjun Catapult System is a Self-Propelled Howitzer that is in service by the Indian Army, replacing the previous Vijayanta Catapult Platform. Using a Arjun MBT hull with the turret replaced by the same rearward-facing Soviet 130mm M-46 Howitzer, the Catapult System sees much improvement in its protection and mobility. 40 systems are currently in service alongside the K-9 Vajra SPH.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 130mm M-46 Howitzer (AP, HE, HE-VT)
• Armor:
  • 10 - ???mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~60 km/h Forward
  • ~40 km/h Back

Jonga 106 (Rank V; BR 7.0)

A locally-produced jeep designed by Nissan equipped with a 106 mm recoilless rifle, seeing combat in several wars and border clashes with Pakistan.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 106mm M40A1 Recoilless Rifle (HEATFS)
• Armor:
  • 10 - 20mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~80 km/h Forward
  • ~40 km/h Back

Ajeya GCT F1 (Rank V; BR 7.7)

A Ajeya hull with the turret of the AUF1 SPH… Interesting…

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 155mm GCT F1 Howitzer (HE, HE-VT)
• Armor:
  • 10 - 130mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~60 km/h Forward
  • ~5 km/h Back

Jonga SS.11 B1 (Rank VI; BR 8.0)

A locally-produced jeep designed by Nissan equipped with three SS.11 B1 ATGM Launchers.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 3x SS.11 B1 ATGMs
• Armor:
  • 10 - 20mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~4 km/h Back

Gypsy AT (Rank VI; BR 8.3)

A locally-produced jeep equipped with an ATGM Launcher.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 9M113 ATGM Launcher
• Armor:
  • 10 - 20mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~40 km/h Back

Windy 505 (Rank VI; BR 8.3)

A locally-produced jeep equipped with an ATGM Launcher.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x ATGM Launcher
• Armor:
  • 10 - 20mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~40 km/h Back

Mahindra Striker (Rank VI; BR 8.7)

A locally-produced jeep by Mahindra equipped with an ATGM Launcher.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x ATGM Launcher
• Armor:
  • 10 - 20mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~70 km/h Forward
  • ~40 km/h Back

BRDM-II Striker (Rank VI; BR 9.0)

A Upgraded Imported BRDM-II equipped with ATGM launchers.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 5x ATGM Launchers
• Armor:
  • 5mm - 10mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • 100 km/h Forward
  • 10 km/h (In Water)
  • ~40 km/h Back

NAMICA TD (Rank VII; BR 10.0)

The Tech Demonstrator of the NAMICA Anti-Tank Missile Carrier, using a BMP-2 chassis to carry the indigenous F&F, Top-Down, “Nag” ATGM.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 2x “Nag” ATGM Launcher
• Armor:
  • 6 - 30mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~72 km/h Forward
  • ~12 km/h Back

NAMICA (P) (Rank VII; BR 10.0)

The Displayed Prototype of the NAMICA Anti-Tank Missile Carrier, now using a improved telescopic launcher system to carry the indigenous F&F, Top-Down, “Nag” ATGM.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 4x “Nag” ATGM Launcher
• Armor:
  • 6 - 30mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ~72 km/h Forward
  • ~12 km/h Back

NAMICA (Rank VII; BR 10.3)

A Anti-Tank Missile Carrier using BMP-2 chassis to carry the indigenous F&F, Top-Down, “Nag” ATGM.

[cursive-stare87]

ACV IP Mk.IIC (Rank I; BR 1.0)

One of the first ever indigenous armored vehicles built by india, the ACV IP Mk.IIC now has a speciallized turret with a elevated machine gun.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 14mm Boys Anti-Tank Rifle (AP, AP-T)
  • 1x 7.7mm Bren Machine Gun (Turret)
• Armor:
  • 8mm - 14mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • 90 km/h Forward
  • ~40 km/h Back

Ferret ZPU-2 (Rank I; BR 1.7)

A Nepalese Light AA vehicle, using a british ferret and soviet ZPU-2 gun system.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 2x 14.5mm KPV Machine Guns (AP, AP-T)
• Armor:
  • 12mm - 30mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • 58 km/h Forward
  • ~40 km/h Back

TATRA ZU-23-2 (Rank III; BR 5.0)

A TATRA truck equipped with a ZU-23-2… SHEEEEEEEEEE-

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 2x 23mm 2A13 Autocannon (AP, AP-T)
• Armor:
  • 5mm - 20mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ?? km/h Forward
  • ? km/h Back

Improved ZSU-23-4 (Rank VI; BR 8.3)

Russian Export ZSU-23-4 upgraded a new engine and Israeli radar and targeting system.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 4x 23mm AZP-23 Autocannons (API-T, HEF-I, HEFI-T)
• Armor:
  • 8.9mm - 9.4mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • 55 km/h Forward
  • 9 km/h Back

TATRA AK-630 (Rank VI; BR 8.7)

A TATRA Truck equipped with a Russian naval AK-630 on the back, mainly used for training.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 1x 30mm AK-630 Rotary Cannon (API-T, HEF-I, HEFI-T)
• Armor:
  • 5mm - 30mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ?? km/h Forward
  • ? km/h Back

Armado BDL (Rank VI; BR 9.0)

This is a modification of the Mahindra Armado that has a lengthened bed and is equipped with a Thales StarsStreak missile system in the back.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 2x StarsStreak AA Missiles
• Armor:
  • 5mm - 20mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • ?? km/h Forward
  • ? km/h Back

Trishul CV (Rank VII; BR 9.3)

The Trishul CV was a SAM Carrier for the Trishul SAM, developed in the 1980’s, and seeing limited service in the 2000’s.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 4x Trishul AA Missiles
• Armor:
  • 6mm - 30mm (RHA)
• Mobility:
  • 72 km/h Forward
  • 12 km/h Back

SAMAR I (Rank VII; BR 10.3)

A TATRA truck with two R-70s strapped to the back… wack.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 2x R-70
• Armor:
  • 7mm - 10mm (RHA, Armoured Glass)
• Mobility:
  • ?? km/h Forward
  • ?? km/h Back

SAMAR II (Rank VII; BR 10.3)

A TATRA truck with two P-27Ts strapped to the back… somehow more wack.

Stats:

• Armament:
  • 2x P-27T Missiles
• Armor:
  • 7mm - 10mm (RHA, Armoured Glass)
• Mobility:
  • ?? km/h Forward
  • ?? km/h Back

[Константинович7]

I think you’re going way too off-topic, in my opinion the topic should’ve been regarding Israel.

[cursive-stare87]

ok

[Magikッ]

All Mk.3’s should be like - 11.0 ngl. The earlier Merks should have their BRs reverted and the 2D moved back to 9.7.

[Beeschurger]

@KaiserGX

That a regular tech tree vehicle can so clearly outperform a premium one intended to represent the pinnacle of Israeli engineering is not only disappointing it is a strong indication that the Israeli tree as a whole is deeply unbalanced

Im going to take a really quick jab at your logic here and ask whenever you think premium vehicles should be better than their TT counterparts (and as such, making the game pay to win).

[KaiserGX]

Let me respond briefly to that line of reasoning and respectfully challenge the assumption behind it. When exactly do you believe premium vehicles should be worse than their tech tree counterparts to the point of being outright uncompetitive? Because if the logic is to avoid “pay-to-win” scenarios, then making a premium tank functionally worse than every other vehicle in its BR including tech tree tanks from lower tiers is not balance; it’s negligence.

Let’s be clear: no one is asking for premium vehicles to be overpowered. We don’t expect them to dominate or carry entire matches. But a premium vehicle should at minimum offer parity with its BR — it should be viable, competitive, and fair to use. It should not be a punishment for the player who invested real money into it. That’s just bad game design, and it borders on disrespect to the player base.

Let’s take the Raam Segol as a case in point. This is a BR 11.3 vehicle that is worse in survivability, optics, mobility, and internal layout than many tech tree tanks one or even two BRs below it. Its ammo placement makes it a death trap. Its thermals are weak. Its massive profile is hard to hide, and it can be frontally penned by tanks at 10.3. Meanwhile, it’s expected to compete against 12.0 lineups? That’s not a challenge it’s a guaranteed loss.

Now contrast that with the Russian tree, where vehicles like the 2S38, T-72AV (TURMS-T), and even older premiums like the T-55AM-1 are often superior to their tech tree equivalents, with better thermals, survivability, or firepower. The same goes for US premiums, like the M1A1 AIM or the RDF/LT, which are highly effective and comfortably hold their own at their BRs. These premiums deliver value and performance appropriate to their cost which is what any reasonable player expects.

No one is saying the Raam Segol needs to win games on its own, but it should at least stand a fighting chance. As it stands, it feels like it was intentionally made to underperform and that raises serious concerns about consistency in premium vehicle design. Can anyone honestly name another premium vehicle that feels like it’s deliberately built to make the game harder for the person who paid for it?

At the end of the day, people aren’t paying to win. But they also shouldn’t be paying to lose.

[dotSHINI]

@cursive-stare87

when a Canadian Leo or Aussie Abrams would have made more sense

still not a subtree, the canadian leo and australian abrams are placed where they belong

[O_Warrior0]

it a CAS nightmare, though… Send a KH-29T Air to Ground missle 180KG of TNT and it just absorbed everything from the top of the turret.

[Just_Baron]

I still think India and Israel should be in the same tech tree after a certain BR. They share too much tech today not to be together at the top tier.

[AydanL44100]

And all that would be fixed if they added ✨nation folders✨

[Beeschurger]

@KaiserGX

When exactly do you believe premium vehicles should be worse than their tech tree counterparts to the point of being outright uncompetitive?

I dont.

@KaiserGX

Because if the logic is to avoid “pay-to-win” scenarios

Avoiding pay to win scenarios in any freemium game can never be a bad thing for players.

@KaiserGX

making a premium tank functionally worse than every other vehicle in its BR including tech tree tanks from lower tiers is not balance; it’s negligence.

@KaiserGX

But a premium vehicle should at minimum offer parity with its BR — it should be viable, competitive, and fair to use.

Just because it is premium doesnt mean the vehicle should perform the same as every other vehicle in its BR.

Taking this example to the extreme, look at premiums like Panzerwerfer 42. There isnt a BR where this thing would be competitive, so if premium tank = cant be functionally worse than every other vehicle in its BR and should be viable, competetive and fair to use, it would need some artificial buff, which is not a good thing.

Of course top tier premiums and MBTs are more naunced but i just wanted to get a point across.

Anyway

Premium status should have absolutely no bearing on vehicle balance, be it Raam Segol, Clickbait or TURMS.

Premium vehicles should not have any special privileges when it comes to their balance.

Take look at Clickbait vs. TT M1A1HC. These tanks are identical as far as i know bar Clickbaits unique decorations and premium status and as such they should always share the BR and any balance decision about their kit. In no way shape or form should Clickbait recieve preferential treatment over M1A1HC just because its premium.

If you want to argue that Raam Segol (and 11.3 Merkavas in general) isnt competetive, sure go ahead.

Just dont build your argument off Raam Segols premium status.