Yes. The game is basically balanced so that its easy to grind up to rank 3 or 4 without Premium vehicles or premium time. But then the game slows way down. SL and RP costs increase a lot and is very much balanced around you have at least one or the other, if not both.
With ground being one of the worst for being slow. Id rank the vehicles types from easiest to hardest to grind as the following
Air
Bluewater
Ground
Heli (would be last if not for the fact you can now grind via ground)
Coastal (only because of long queue times)
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Air is around where it should be IMO.
10- 20 k RP for a good game. I got 8 kills in ground, hell 9 is my record and IIRC it was under 4k RP!
You really have to choose wisely which nation to do in ground. You are spot on with the rank 4 too. Iv got 4 nations around there pretty easy but im at the point of just grind russia lol
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Yeah, I mostly agree. I think there are aspect of Air RB rewards that should be better (such as removal of the diminishing returns mechanic for example) and ASB definetly needs some TLC. But yeah. its not far off.
and yeah, ironically, some of my best games withwise to RP in ground were just sat AFK in the Rapier, shooting down recon drones and then later aircraft when they spawned, because i had activity time from shooting down the drones and long survival times from hiding in our spawn
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First ground tree I’ve ever grinded was Italy. I stopped at the first Ariete because even with premium account the grind was miserable. Also I don’t like playing tanks so I’m a bad tanker too
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That is precisely why i wont grind another ground TT
My idea was to have at least rank III in almost every tree just in case of events. As example with Jap I never went beyond rank2, too much pain.
About air, despite being faster I refused to play Israel (the last country to be added), I tried, but I really can’t. The idea of grinding from scratch a whole new tree (starting at rankIV) with low level crews and made mostly (more than mostly) of copy paste made me feel so bad.
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Im picking at italy air at the moment, but dont have a lot of motivation for it currently.
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I got luck, as an Italian I started the grind when the tree was just added, so less vehicles, a couple of premium ones. If you have the bp hungarian 109F you can grind with that up to rankIV. Some low tiers are fun the C 205 serie1 despite the weapons are a bit meh has incredibly good performance
I never bother with the BPs.
Im just playing the AMX A-1A in ASB and GSB. Though not touched either gamemode in months
Same, apart from brave archer because I really wanted a premium Re2005, I got all the free vehicles and completed tasks just by playing without even noticing. I got some premium ships I’ve never ever touched lol.
I’m sorry, little one. I haven’t even completed half the game
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Yes, warthunder is absolutely a very grindy game and everything will take much more time. Unlocking a single top tier plane at minimum takes many hours (if you are very good), but it could easily be more than a week of two between vehicle unlocks if you don’t play regularly or if you have a bad performance. Reaching top tier in air f2p might take ~200 hours. Ground will undoubtedly take much longer, they have a slower progression than air.
You have to ask yourself if you play this game to unlock new vehicles or if you play it because it’s fun.
Of course it is grindy nearly all if not all free to play games are modeled like this, with the lessening of the grind being what you pay for instead of a subscription fee. Financially it is most probably a slightly better model, I am not sure or cannot remember but people playing a game often brings in its own revenue for the company, so you are not dependent on fee paying players that may not pay or renew. One of the drawbacks is of course if people will not pay for ways to lessen the grind, but people with too much spare cash and free time are fairly easy marks to get money out of.
All in all it is not a very good gaming experience the game has too many flaws, unbalance, RNG and cheating to be enjoyable or more than a time waster.
I remember feeling the same when I first reached rank 4, it felt incredibly slow, every plane took a lot of work to unlock.
Now I’m used to it, and I’m also better so the grind is faster, so I don’t have too much of an issue with it and I’m fine with the grind pace.
But overall I would agree that it shouldn’t be so slow, it could be less grindy
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I’m also in Rank 4 in Russia. It wouldn’t have been bad if the vehicles I was grinding with were good. But, at Rank 4, the vehicles I use feel severely underpowered (with the exception of T-34 1942) compared to other nations at that BR. And that makes the grind even more frustrating.
does a bear crap in the woods?
Yeah, I’m almost convinced I should just delete my account, but it feels like I can still enjoy if I just start another tree and bring all trees to rank 4
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