barrel does look shorter than other DEFA variants, but I just can’t believe it. A cannon with a muzzle velocity slower than the MiG-15?
It looks completely impractical :(
All three projectile velocities are 600 m/s… It’s like witnessing the rebirth of the Mk108.
Idk, is that slow? I don’t have the notion, though defas are known for requiring a lot of lead
2C uses the DEFA 541 as its standard armament, but it only reaches 600 m/s ;-;
it made me to give up this aircraft
I gave up on mysteres tbh, they’re fun to play but the constant uptiers make them barely playable
I’m driving the Mystere 2A, and I can’t believe this thing is actually the same BR as the Sabre… :)
Do you mean it’s better or worse?
I mean, there doesn’t seem to be a huge difference, but honestly, Mystere just feels like a downgrade.
Yeah… though it really could be enjoyable if the uptiers issue wasn’t so bad
The defa is pretty much a copy of the Mg 213C, which among other nations just took over. The Mg 213C could fire both the 20x135mm and the 30x85mm round. The allies decided to go with a slightly bigger 30 mm round, so overall yes the relatively low velocity of just 600m/s is historical.
hell no…;-; France should have chosen the 20mm
Nah look at the M50s, at least the defas wreck what they hit
I’m not a huge fan of getting 10 hits on a plane you know
Pretty fine for now to using Air to air belt :]
well, the DEFA are reverse engineered MK-213 revolver cannon
so it should have pretty much same velocity
Only DEFA 541 is using a slow speed shells. It seems that the improvement work was later done.
tho i gotta say, im not sure since i did try and look it up
all i really found was 815m/s and a french video about it but since i dont understand french i have no idea what theyre saying
theres an hour long video about it, if you understand french there MAYBE some info about it
I’m gonna check it hhh
They’re decent with air belt but it’s still much more enjoyable when hits are guaranteed kills
Hey friend. I found the report of defa 541.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hki2v5QMZamP
According to this, 541 uses different shell with 55x series…
I’m so sad…
The report says it only had two projectile types, both explosive shells.
Which makes sense with that kind of velocity. So the AP is most likely wrong.
I also don’t understand how they got implemented at 600m/s when the report said 610m/s.
But ADEN/DEFA AP is also incorrectly implemented, as they should be firing APCR and not AP.
