Is this a spall issue or not?

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
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Couple of points to make to understand the context:

  • I had two guys on the right, one spotted on the minimap spawncamping (he does die as i fight the ZLT11 but i don’t know that yet) and the other closer to me (audio cue, the engine was loud af), so the priority would have been to kill the guy that i heard on my left as fast as possible, hopefully with a single shot. Hence why, when i realized it was a ZLT11 that clearly could spot me, i avoided shooting at the turret (no matter where i shoot, if we’re shooting EXACTLY at the turret cheeks it doesn’t kill the ZLT11, right side kills 2 crew members and prolly gets breach and left side kills one and prolly gets breach, either case the guy spots me and i’m dead in the next minute).
  • I shot twice at the same spot expecting a different result, i know, brain fart, its hot, give me a break.

This doesn’t make me less confused, rather, more:

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It’s a spall issue for sure, armor is so thin that doesn’t create spall.

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Yeah but it is also inconsistent, i would understand if the shot never created spall but as you can see from the second clip this isn’t the case…

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The spall issue happens alot lately, also with few Russian tanks specially the object292, i hope it gets fixed soon it driving alot of people crazy.

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Another massive one is Abramses LFP:

Also big thanks to Stona for correcting the tags

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I’ve never had any issues 1-tapping an Abrams through its LFP while in T 80 U

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Thin armour can create spall ,It was most common in WW1

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You have to consider the material, cartridge velocity and size.

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Yes not necessarily the thickness.
You may have meant in the game which is fine,my mistake maybe.I just assume the game followed standard physics but maybe not.

Retro fitting old thinly armored AFVs for the third world with late spall liners is big business though.

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Check the vid i just sent, there’s a specific spot in the LFP that doesn’t create spall. Most of my Abrams kills are prolly through the LFP hence why this specific bug has happened a couple of times.

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I was probably just getting lucky with volumetric I guess/

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Its a bug, and AFAIK it is acknowledged. Most of the shots to LFP will spall, this happens just a small amount of times.

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I remember a while ago som1 posted a bug about a new light tank added that would create spall if you shot its left side plate, but not its right side plate.

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There’s also Zenturion on yt that made a vid on it.

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It’s just a bug, and it rarely happens in Ground RB, its gonna get fixed in no time, but the real issue is the turret ring thats been acknowledged 7 months ago but still no fix.

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Afaik, the protection analysis (both the in game one and the one in the garage/hangar) only shows spall that hits either the crew or modules. Since the spall generated in the shot doesn’t hit any crew or modules, it looks like no spall was generated.

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It’s either a bug or another intentional silent APFSDS nerf. Looks more like a bug tho

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Yes you right, but in that case spalls doesn’t creates at all. It’s a bug.

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As an acive abrams main, for us this is a kill shot be because if you flank us the engine deck gets in the way, also ive played 1000, plus battles in the abrams probably 300 plus scince the last update, ive never had this happen to me so I think it prob won’t happen in game.