Is there less APFSDS spall now?

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Ever since the air superiority update, top tier apfsds spalling has felt really inconsistent. It is NOT BECAUSE OF THE SPALL LINERS because its been happening even on tanks w/o them such as the abrams. 1 shotting when they are angled, turret ring, driver port, etc feels really inconsitent now and never kills.

Is it just me having a skill issue, my apfsds shell or is the apfsds spall actually decreased? (I am using the Strv 122 slpprj m/95)

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agree w u, can`t play on my Leo PL now. Top tier now is worst tier

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I feel like APDSFS damage was turned down in general, on lower tiers its bad too, and thats without spall liners.
These two were a mistake.
Spall liners just remove cone almost completely.
Both without the spall liner and with it spall cone are just too small.

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Yes i was thinking the same yesterday when playing. Good to know im not the only one.

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Same here at my experience.

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Same.

This became very obvious to me when I played the VCC-80/60. It already had poor spalling (due to small caliber) but after the update it might as well have none at all.

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Huh, so it’s not just my imagination. Well yes I agree, I also feel there’s less spall.

I noticed this change on the dev server as well, where it was even more noticeable, but I shrugged it off as some dev server bug, as there were many. Seems it was intentional perhaps. I feel this is also just a server side thing, as it’s not in the datamines. May show again that there’s just many knobs Gaijin can turn without us knowing.

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There was also this bug.

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I never use forums…but apfsds spalling since patch drop has been so f***ed in lack of a better word. Its inconsistent, I don’t trust it and half the time im second guessing myself now because I feel like I’m not gonna kill the guy swinging or the guy im pushing. You will hit a bullseye shot, centre-mass on a light tank or even a side shot on an MBT, and all you get is maybe a loader. None of these 10.0 vehicles have spall liners but it damn well feels like they do. Prior to Air Superiority the same shots were clean 1-taps.

I’ve been experiencing this with both high tier Russia and Germany; 2A4, Tam 2C, 2S25M, T72B, T64B, T80B. I haven’t played too much 11.7 as I have been in the process of grinding out the new t90m and 2a7, but sounds like the rest of you have done the testing with similar results already.

Perhaps a year back, a buddy and I recall a similar situation, where spalling for a good solid couple weeks was just piss-weak, the CV90105 would eat sabot rounds like a sponge. Feels like every now and then when Gaijin tweaks something in relation to ballistics the spalling just goes out of kilter.

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EDIT: Patch came through 3 Hours after I posted my original comment. They fixed spalling, there was indeed less secondary fragments then there was supposed to be.

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