Is there any way to spade the Tornado Gr4?

Like I tried ARB and no way, the F4 is just faster then me and i can’t get a base, I tried ASB, impossible at 12.3 when you have to fight Pulse doppler radars and russia.

Am i missing a hidden play style that’s not team killing the F4 before it reaches the base, I go out with minus SL but at least i get RP

Gold eagles.

Simulator battles probably the easiest actually.

ye u can technically sneak by but thats really luck based…

I personally didnt find it too bad (in 2024), in either ARB or ASB. But it was fiddly. It has gotten a lot harder since then.

In ASB you need to take a wide arc, ideally on maps with some cover, so you can terrain mask. If you pick your routing right, you can generally avoid the enemy team. All tactics learnt when flying the GR1 vs Mig-29s. So trust me, could be worse. Just make sure to be picking the 11.3-12.3 lobbies when they come round, hedge every possible advantage (though the Mig-29s moving down does suck for this)

In ARB, you need to try and punch through too a base, Flanking slightly left, you are slow stock, so it can be tedious and you may find yourself beaten to bases quite often. but generally managable. Ive often found that whilst the left hand bases are taken, the right hand ones arent always, Though, this was before the great compression. So… I do imagine it is harder now. There is also always AI targets to go hit, reward is low, but not nothing.

Though, it is total BS that the Tornado SLE gets IRCCM stock and the GR4 does not and the GR4/SLE would be more appropriate at 12.0.

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You don’t have time to route anymore as everyone and their mom is base bombing at the 12.3 bracket sadly

In not a single round there ware not 7 F4S that ware going to faster then me to the base

Ground battles, make people’s day miserable. Otherwise, arcade?

4x unguided 1000lb vs Top tier SPAA? Not really an option. It also assumes you have top tier ground vehicles

Well the game gives you stock ****boxes and an SPAA with lvl 1 crew, so you could do it if you’re a hardcore masochist

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Never had an issue running a full strike loadout on the AJS37 or AJ37

Must be troll lmao

Nope, I’m being dead serious. I died more to air defenses than other pilots. Specifically the gun AA

Not to mention playing the Su-34 with a full strike loadout, only 2 R-73’s, rest are groms or UMPK’s. Easiest way to grind planes and events.

I use it to grind the events, and ignore air battles. Despite this I can confidently beat you in air sim or air realistic in a 1v1against you. You asked for a method to grind, I delivered.

the only thing you delivers was saying you can do better in a supiriour aircraft at a lower br

brother what?? you don´t even have the tornado

Also sure i am down to 1v1 you in sim, what br? ( i don´t do props or early jets)

You pick the BR if that’s the case. I can do anywhere from 10.3 to 14.0

I can use Sweden, Russia, or USA; maybe Japan.

Idk how the AJS37 is superior. It has Mavericks with Generation 1 TV seekers, no lock range. You only get two AIM-9P-3’s and 12x 120kg bombs. Just learn to use CCRP in sim and B-line to targets.

I mean, it has speed, that’s it.

I’d say the most comparable thing Sweden has to the Tornado GR.4 is the Alpha JAS39, specifically it it’s A format.

Sorry, “It” was referring to simulator mode, I don’t play it often outside of events. And besides, all of my sim training from other games, like DCS, are mostly ground attack focused, which is what I need for event grinding efficiency.

Btw you are comparing armament of an 10.3 jet vs a 12.3 jet. In your br you are WAY better then a tornado with 2 Aim 9Ls at 12.3.

I talked with someone else in here about that already, the issue is not that i don’t know how to use ccrp, the issue is i am fighting PD TWS with top tier IR missiles and modern radar missiles, while in a cockpit that only allowed me to ccrp when having a direct line of sight to the bomb target as i do not have vertical line to align me on on in my HUD

sure! at work right now, i’ll be home later. Lets do a friendly 1v1 and not trash talk or anything. Sorry for bringing your KD into this before :)

Edit: Gulp game master is typing

Yes, remember one can chose when (meaning in what BR-bracket) and where (map selection) one will fight.

For any attacker in that BR area, Afghanistan and somewhat Vietnam allow use of terrain masking to get to/from the target safely.

One often sees however also attackers that blindly fly towards their target at surprisingly high altitudes…

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I see that a lot during events lol. But with the tornado you can’t fly high as you only see a dot where your ccrp point is, and no vertical line you can align your self on