basically title, i have it but never crewed it after a bunch of testing led me to believe it would perform really poorly against other 8.7 jets (not to mention 9.0 jets proper, oof). Its a fatter 2C with a mediocre engine and loses speed so damn fast, I really dont get what exactly makes it 8.7 worthy, the two Nord missiles, maybe? I dont think moving it down would break 8.3 or make it overpowered since performance matches somewhat closely to the 2C, in fact i believe it would breathe new life into the IVA and make it somewhat decent, and personally i believe folding the 2A, 2C and IVA in the same slot makes more sense than folding the IVA with the Super Mystere.
Anyway im kind of rambling now, so id like to ask this forum how theyd react if gaijin did move the IVA down.
According to Gaijin’s illogical logic, which balances everything with average player skills
Mystere IVA will hit 9.0 soon, while F-86A-5 will hit 7.7.
Look at Vampire at 8.0, which can do nothing to either F-86A or MiG-15 unless they do blunder badly thanks to 7.0BR capable engine thrust. :/
Build a time machine and export Mystere IVA into USA, then come back.
Then maybe it can get some buff after that.
i havent played the vampire, i mostly fly french aircrafts so i cant speak my mind on its BR, however i did fight plenty of mig15s and sabres in the f84g, and im pretty sure the IVA would struggle, even though its a full BR higher. And I still dont understand why the mig and sabre sit so low, theyre two of the most capable jets of their BR and compress 7.7 really badly.
Agree with u guys
Mystere IVA is almost useless against even 8.0 planes and it is still at 8.7
This is not okay and we need to talk about it more at least here and repost this thread wherever we can to have any chance of changing it
It’s actually amazing how poor the flight model of the Mystere 4 is, and how underpowered teh engines feel. I could see it easily going down to 8.0 in it’s current state. It feels awful to fly and i feel bad shooting them down.
I came here to say this is one of the worst planes ive ever played. Especially in SIM mode. Its useless against su7, or mig 21 f-13, underperforms in every aspect
Because it has 3300kgf engine, accelerates similar to sabres (1100kph top speed) and has access to AA Nords (french version only).
It’s of course extremely sensitive to maneuvers because of the insane bleed so its a plane you have to baby very hard, same withe the Super Mystere B2 at lower speeds. It’s doable but it requires a disproportionate amount of skill compared to a sabre or mig that can just press pitch up and not have to worry about falling out of the sky. The upshot of that is that you can one-turn most things, but you better make sure you kill them and that there’s no enemies around.
Overall it’s a pretty miserable plane to fly and just like a lot of other legacy 8.7s like g91s, venom and Yak-30D got left behind when the actually meta planes like sabres and migs got downtiered, possibly because the few people that do play them tend to be higher skilled players looking for a challenge + a few unaware people who crewed it not knowing any better.
Only 8829 matches have been played with both the Israeli and French one combined in august compared to 49000 for an F2 sabre for example. There just aren’t enough players to significantly drain the stats and make gaijin downtier it.
It will out-accelerate F sabres in a straight line at least, but yeah most other 8.7s have better acceleration. That’s why it’s smart to bank some altitude before getting in a fight.