hen 22kg = 65mm of overpressure which does not exist with the hesh and for the type 99 15kg = 64mm that seems strange to me. Only 1mm difference for 7kg more TNT is it shameful? What do you think about it?
Another issue is that spalling generated from the 183mm doesn’t go deep enough. They need to add the same buff missiles got with their damage.
For example, hitting the King Tiger’s front plate with the 183mm HESH shell will usually only kill the Driver and Bow Machinegunner. It should reach significantly further and kill all the crew, at least.
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its got 21.76kg TNTe now
i don’t care much for the missing pen it should have, i just want the HE part to work, i shot a Tiger 2 on the mantlet the other day and it did nothing, a 155mm HE would have overpressured the roof
its shameful considering it should have around the same performance as the American 100lb bomb, Russian 50kg, or Japanese 60kg in terms of Overpressure
that has happened to me so many times and it drives me up the wall
before the fv4005 had 28.9kg
22kg of tnt = 65mm anda 15kg of tnt = 64mm. only 1mm of penetration more ???
one thing i do hope for though since they fixed the FV4005s weight from like 58T to 50T
is to fix its speed, its based on the Cent Mk.3 Hull, it should have the full 21.5mph forward, not the 17.4 it has right now
yes, but don’t you find the example I cited strange?
any more Overpressure pen wouldn’t achieve that much improvement, with 64mm you can overpressure the maus, providing HESH has fully functioning overpressure it should be fine.
of course it should probabally have more pen, but it won’t see too much improvement in performance, besides a few vehicles where the increase in pen will make aiming less of an issue
for me the fv4005 should at least penetrate 114mm of overpressure because I think that irl we do not realize that in one hit of this shell any tank will be annihilated. but already go add a overpresure of A hesh shell
Vehicles made accurately get put to a BR that reflects its realistic capability?
Well…at least they should :)
BTW…used FV4005 recently and got several hits without a kill…on stuff like tigers and panthers (damage but no kill). So i guess sometimes it does not work as well as i would like also…
On other occasions it would kill tougher targets…not sure on why…shot placement perhaps…
Shot placement is very important to counteract the badly modelled HESH jank however its still a flip of the coin whether you get yellow gunner or atomised when hit by hesh
Uhhmmm, excuse me?
they shot a 183mm round at a tiger 2 p turret and it caved in the turret, the 183mm hesh in game is modelled incorrectly. It should pretty much without fail kill everything you hit centre mass on.
as a sidenote, I’m pretty sure the in game he filler is lower than it should be, as the projectile itself weighs like 70kg so there is no way it only has like 20kg of tnt equivelant inside of it.
i found a lot of success sitting back and sniping with it, the long reload and low armour prevent you from being aggressive, but at range the armour is good enough and because the rounds don’t lose any effectiveness at distance, it becomes quite effective.
When I do that, I get strafed by CAP/CAS like 199 out of 200 games. The best way to play this thing will be like what the guy above mentioned, you put it in the hangar and never play it again else you gotta have mostly bad times with it.
yh, cas is a problem for it but that isn’t really the vehicles fault that’s more of a problem with the gamemode. The fv4005 is really fun imo, and sometimes pretty effective.
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And also, being so negative about it doesn’t really help.
The Tank Museum says it has a 65kg projectile with a 30kg casing. I know they aren’t really a primary source but does war thunder have it wrong or?
Perhaps a bit exaggeration, no?
In AB the strafing dropped A LOT since they removed target IDs for fighters…
AGAIN…FV4005 is like dozens other TDs in game…good gun, low armor…and in this case also a slow reload. Not my favorite tank…but can be played in the lineup and BR is reasonable.
Dont know if HESH should be better…
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The hesh should be really better because for the moment it is rubbish. There is nothing else to say