Is the T58 and Turm III a little too strong at 8.3 and 8.7

Not really

Completely false at 9.0 most tanks have stabilizer and at 8.3 theirs a good amount of vehicles with stabilizer while the t58 doesn’t
The t58 is fine where it is the muzzle absorbers rounds and the heat can also suffer from volumetric armor and spaced out tanks where it doesn’t one shot plus most people already learned how to destroy them

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Personally, i think T58 its very overpowered for 8.0, fast reload, good penetration and like 2 seconds for reload(dam this is crazy really), i see a lot of times my friend die from this tank.

Theirs plenty of tanks with extremely fast reloading some probably not as fast tho but are as toxic as the t58

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yes but reload of less 3 seconds and penetration like 400mm whatahell its that

The same as the 2s38 or Raketenautomat or the BMPT-72 with those really good missiles, PzH 2000HU, AMX-50 (TOA100) their equally as toxic at their br
Also at 7.7 most some vehicle already getting heat rounds and 8.0 most tanks have heat rounds,apfds, and apds rounds

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true…

I’ve tested it now and tanks still evaporate when shot in their tracks using HESH.

So nothing have changed?Well…urgh,nvm,it remains broken seems like

man i just wish they would nerf the reload on the t58

my dream would be playing a full lineup of american autoloaders (t54, t57, t58…), it just sounds so peak…

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8.3 USA is pretty peak. So peak, I stopped playing Russia between 7.3 - 9.0

Well, I stopped playing Russia as a whole… it’s boring and I’m sick of having worse vehicles than most others.

Been playing a lot of USA / Britain thougj

That’s a wild take as Russia has amazing/strong vehicles at those br

That also wild as the whole tech tree is filled with amazing great powerful tanks honestly Russia and weak in the same sentence is wild

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If you say so, as a russian main, I disagree. Especially since the T58 ruined everything around it no matter the nation.

I personally love the obj.906 but it’s so flimsy and very situational. Irl it’s one of my favorite tanks, but it can’t kill m60s reliably. Even the heat is meh. There fore I haven’t been playing it.

I got the QF ram in the cupcakes so I’ve been playing that tons, far more fun.

Also for the record, I HATE 10.7+ for the aimbotters and cheaters. They can be found at all brs, but they’re too consistent at top tier.

Top tier is pure toxicity, whether or not it’s the Germans / USA spawn camp rush, the cas spam by all, or the genuinely unfun gameplay, I just don’t enjoy it.
The maps are too compressed most of the time for top tier.

The fact that there somene who sastain that the t58 is not op make me lose fair in humanity

Because it’s not OP is a strong great tank yes but not game breaking and their is plenty of toxic tanks in game that are the same way

EVERYONE does this not just Germans/usa

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you went from russia “because the tanks suck”…

to Britain???

brotha im a brit main and outside of some things (that still get hammered by compression) i cant say theres anything extraordinary

Sure AP is worse than AP, but the pen is soooo much more reliable. Typically I one shot most targets anyways

Been playin for 7ish years. Sure everyone does it, but it’s mostly regulated to Germany / USA players. They rush for the spawn to get a few free kills.

They need to add a prevention to this

yea i dont get the “AP does no damage” whining for the most part, theres plenty of instances where spall just doesnt generate at all but when things arent broken its quite reliable, will cripple for a free second shot at worse most the time