RAM is needed everywhere you can place it to improve stealth. Its on wingtips, inlets, the radome and everything else too to improve front aspect stealth. But you need it everywhere else too to maintain side, bottom, top and stern aspect stealth.
I think so anyway
If we ever get the Felon in game I want to put Iranian Yasser’s on it for ultra memeshots
Nah Su-57 would lose against F-14A or F-18E :trollface:
So why are Typhoons currently in the process of being upgraded with them
British Typhoons are yet to receive them and we are talking about the present day, not the future nor the past.
Everything I know is that meteor is equal or maybe even superior to the R-37M
Range wise hell no but intelligence wise it’s superior without a doubt, you’ll still end up eating a R-37M outside the engagement range for the Meteor.
Have the Su-57s even entered service yet?
Last I heard there was about a dozen of them, but there wasnt really any pilots to actually fly any of them. Which is one of the major reasons why the Su-57 hasnt been sent anywhere near a certain neighbouring country
Pretty much the average state that the F-22s are in rn.
@MiG_23M Did the budget cuts hurt the maint on them?
Last I heard there was about a dozen of them
I quite literally made fun of that, Russian production of modern vehicles have been absolute cheeks but I’m mainly referring to in-service Typhoons against in-service SU-57s.
In a actual war there wouldn’t be enough SU-57s to counter Typhoons in general but we aren’t talking about that and I’d lean on the side of the Typhoons in that scenario.
On a individual level however the SU-57 is superior factually speaking
Yeah I just checked there is a 22 that are confirmed to be delivered not including prototypes
Vs 195 Raptors (and 1000+ F35s)
I could be wrong, but I think i’ve heard somewhere that they have some maintenance issues and about half of them are usually out-of-service at any given moment in time. I think that is the “dozen” figure i’ve heard previously is from.
I haven’t heard the same but that’s completely possible
Bro you’re comparing an aircraft that was in production for 10 years and the aircraft that just got into production like 3 years ago. And of course that su-57 would be in low numbers because Russia doesn’t have that budget to produce like America can
That was the point I was making, thanks
The Su-57 definitely was designed to be a stealth aircraft, with the PAK-FA program prioritizing ESR-reducing geometry right off the bat.
The Su-27 replacement isn’t the Su-57 either… It’s effectively an equivalent / upgrade but not a direct replacement. If you want possible replacements, the Su-35S has the possibility of better derivatives while the Su-30SM does everything better.
That isn’t saying a lot… 2 Su-30SMs can destroy 8 F-15Es in 85% of sorties.
I mean… The Su-57M already outranges the F-22 in both sensor range and weaponry range.
I’m mostly educated only about the SU-39 and not really any other Russian aerial vehicle, what is Russia’s ultimate Flanker? I’m probably wrong but isn’t the SU-35S a export model and what makes the SU-30SM so good, just curious?
SU-33 or SU-30SM
There are some “derivative” aircraft, but in terms of produced vehicles those two are the peak.
Budget cuts hurt maintenance across the entire military industrial complex. Missiles, tanks, fighters, even transport aircraft are feeling the effects because there isn’t budget to order parts. In all of these systems it is common place for good parts to be pulled off older ordnance & vics and used to replace broken “good” stuff. Anything with a part that takes too long to come in is used as a parts vessel to keep other things up.
Though, if America is struggling like this just imagine anyone else trying to maintain a smaller fleet of top of the line stuff.
Depends on your thought of “ultimate flanker”… Direct upgrades would be the Su-35S, while derivatives will be either the 30SM/MKI.
The Su-35S isn’t an export model, it’s simply a heavy modernization. You may be thinking of the MiG-35.
The Su-30SM has AL-41Fs, which are thrust vectoring. On top of a good radar, 12 weapon hardpoints, and EW capability, it’s great in comparison to even the Su-27SM-3.