For example during the NATO bombing of Serbia Serbia was tracking stealth bombers such as a f117 from 40 km away but it couldn’t engage until it got close to a 12km away
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To keep it simple in air combat F 22 is superior there is no doubt about it.However in everything else besides air combat the su-57 is superior
Su 57 is built as a close in dogfighter, it is not, nor does it claim to be, a stealth fighter. F22 is built to kill a jet from 100 miles away before it even knows theres a missile in the air. If you start the two at a mile away from eachother the felon might have a chance but thats purely hypothetical. Remember, 4 Raptors beat 12 Eagles in red flag exercises so the raptor is no slouch at dogfighting either
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I like that dispite all the discourse in WTs forums and communities everyone that isn’t a Vatnik, no matter nationality or faction they play, agree that modern American jets absolutely hammer everyone else
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I mean yeah nobody has as big as a budget as America for designing the aircraft so of course there is going to be inferiority
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USA hasn’t outspent the entire planet’s GDP for well over half a century just to be average.
No, the nation did it to be the indisputable best. At everything.
Unfortunately it’s just not represented in the game. At all. At the same time, if it was nobody would want to play any other nation - Especially not any pissant warsaw pact nation. Then the game would be boring and dead in the water for all intents and purposes.
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What do you mean it’s not represented in the war Thunder?
I don’t really know what you mean by this post I mean America does have the best CAS and fighter aircraft Yeah they’re mbt are a bit lackluster but that’s due to the age of the tank
The full extent of the technological, mechanical and practical superiority of the US military in full.
Not even an adequate extent is displayed because Gaijin chooses to be maliciously incompetent on the matter. But that’s a seperate discussion so I’ll leave that sleeping dog be for now.
RedEffect uses common sense which people with more than 10 functional braincells should be able to see, would you rather trust Lazerpig who mistook a Challenger 2 for a T-64?
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The J-20 is the only actual stealth aircraft to be produced in large numbers by a foreign nation, it generally is equipped with longer range missiles and is the most capable aircraft the East is capable of producing (including Russia and excluding US allies like Japan).
If I recall the RCS of the J-20 is estimated to be between 0.1 to 0.001 which still would be larger than the F-22 and F-35 but is compensated by its arsenal.
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The F-22 Raptor could defeat 5x F-15 Strike Eagles
Well the F-15E is infamously known to be more obese than your average F-15, the F-15C specialises in air to air and the F-15E for ground. When it comes to dogfighting which is unrealistic in the modern era the SU-57 may outperform the F-22 HOWEVER the same can’t be said for BVR.
Dogfighting? In 21st century?
Dogfighting? In 21st century?
“When it comes to dogfighting which is unrealistic in the modern era”
Perhaps you should actually read my message instead of cropping it so make it seem silly. I’m already aware dogfights are unrealistic and it was only a example, you’re proving to be something else but a ladies man lol.
Oooh boy, is it late to grab a popcorn?
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And you’re comparing something which doesn’t exist anymore in the 21st century. F22 wouldn’t be spotted at all on any radar so talking about dogfighting is absurd while the SU-57 is a flying whale.
I’m sorry my friend but you’re just completely incorrect there is difference between being spotted and being engaged
F22 wouldn’t be spotted at all on any radar
A aircraft being stealthy means to decrease the detection range and lock range of ones aircraft, it doesn’t mean you’re completely invisible from radar. Iran already has a stealth aircraft captured through electronic warfare in their hands (from the US) and both Iran and Russia have claimed to detect the F-22 before.
However, being able to detect doesn’t mean to you’ll have a solid solution for a hard lock
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What you gonna engage? F22 raptor wouldn’t be seen or spotted at all, so the idea to attack the F22 without you being spotted on its radar is nonsense.
What you gonna engage? F22 raptor wouldn’t be seen or spotted at all
Incorrect, modern AESA radars are more than capable of detecting the F-22 but just at shortened ranges, that’s were the issue of the AIM-120 comes into factor as it has shortened range of that compared to a Meteor or PL-15 is substantially smaller.
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