Why do people always compare F22 and su-57 they are not on the same level. The F22 is dedicated air superiority fighter while the su-57 is multirole fighter Don’t get me wrong su-57 isn’t some great aircraft however a lot of the flak that it gets it’s mainly because of the prototype versions that were used for testing
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Plus it’s a difference in doctrine a lot of Soviet\Russian Fighters were designed to fight inside of their air defense protection zone. And you can see that in the design of the su-57. Russia could have made better stealth fighter but you can see that a lot of the design choices were made on the expense of stealth, for an example in close quarters su-57 has an IRST and it also has a laser protection system against infrared missiles.
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It might be an even fight if perhaps the Su-57 could even detect the F-22. Emphasis on might.
Look here I’m not designer I don’t know much about stealth There is a difference between detecting and having a lock There is a high possibility that su-57 and other Russian Fighters can indeed detect the F22 at some meaningful Ranges but probably not fire on it
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I wonder why they don’t bother making those fasteners flush. I guess as long as it meets the RCS requirements.
It’d quite literally be this but F-22 vs Su-57.
It’s not even a contest.
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For example during the NATO bombing of Serbia Serbia was tracking stealth bombers such as a f117 from 40 km away but it couldn’t engage until it got close to a 12km away
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To keep it simple in air combat F 22 is superior there is no doubt about it.However in everything else besides air combat the su-57 is superior
Su 57 is built as a close in dogfighter, it is not, nor does it claim to be, a stealth fighter. F22 is built to kill a jet from 100 miles away before it even knows theres a missile in the air. If you start the two at a mile away from eachother the felon might have a chance but thats purely hypothetical. Remember, 4 Raptors beat 12 Eagles in red flag exercises so the raptor is no slouch at dogfighting either
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I like that dispite all the discourse in WTs forums and communities everyone that isn’t a Vatnik, no matter nationality or faction they play, agree that modern American jets absolutely hammer everyone else
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I mean yeah nobody has as big as a budget as America for designing the aircraft so of course there is going to be inferiority
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USA hasn’t outspent the entire planet’s GDP for well over half a century just to be average.
No, the nation did it to be the indisputable best. At everything.
Unfortunately it’s just not represented in the game. At all. At the same time, if it was nobody would want to play any other nation - Especially not any pissant warsaw pact nation. Then the game would be boring and dead in the water for all intents and purposes.
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What do you mean it’s not represented in the war Thunder?
I don’t really know what you mean by this post I mean America does have the best CAS and fighter aircraft Yeah they’re mbt are a bit lackluster but that’s due to the age of the tank
The full extent of the technological, mechanical and practical superiority of the US military in full.
Not even an adequate extent is displayed because Gaijin chooses to be maliciously incompetent on the matter. But that’s a seperate discussion so I’ll leave that sleeping dog be for now.
RedEffect uses common sense which people with more than 10 functional braincells should be able to see, would you rather trust Lazerpig who mistook a Challenger 2 for a T-64?
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The J-20 is the only actual stealth aircraft to be produced in large numbers by a foreign nation, it generally is equipped with longer range missiles and is the most capable aircraft the East is capable of producing (including Russia and excluding US allies like Japan).
If I recall the RCS of the J-20 is estimated to be between 0.1 to 0.001 which still would be larger than the F-22 and F-35 but is compensated by its arsenal.
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The F-22 Raptor could defeat 5x F-15 Strike Eagles
Well the F-15E is infamously known to be more obese than your average F-15, the F-15C specialises in air to air and the F-15E for ground. When it comes to dogfighting which is unrealistic in the modern era the SU-57 may outperform the F-22 HOWEVER the same can’t be said for BVR.
Dogfighting? In 21st century?
Dogfighting? In 21st century?
“When it comes to dogfighting which is unrealistic in the modern era”
Perhaps you should actually read my message instead of cropping it so make it seem silly. I’m already aware dogfights are unrealistic and it was only a example, you’re proving to be something else but a ladies man lol.