This doesn’t show any DU. It has supposedly the same armor value. The M1A1 turret can be penetrated too easily
I would guess that while it’s modeled, gaijin has not put it into protection analysis
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Soft kill APS?
What does that do?
How does it “kill” ordnance coming towards the tank?
But then that brings up the question, why does only the HC get DU turret inserts and the SEP variants don’t? I’m not sure if they had them in real life but they atleast need something to be as good as the leopard/T-series tanks
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Btw; I just screenshotted the the warthunder wiki page on the clickbait.
Also i highly suspect that every Abrams in the game doesn’t get DU at all, infact they’re based on export models which they’re clear of DU.
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The HC and all M1A2 variants have Turret DU modeled in-game on their protection.
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That’s sad. Atleast give them a modification for it or something. Abrams is kind of like a challenger now, with the largest turret ring and LFP, no spall liners to boot and no M829A3
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This is not true…
It is electro optical, similar to the T-90
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Do they? Never knew, my bad.
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Look at the cheeks of the M1A1 versus the M1A1 HC or any M1A2 variant with an APFSDS like DM53 fired at them.
This is an M1A1’s turret cheek.
This is an M1A1 HC’s turret cheek.
This is an M1A2 SEP’s turret cheek.
DU, while it might not be visually modeled, is represented within the protection analysis of the Abrams. All M1A1 HC and M1A2 models receive this armor package.
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You can check this old forum post.
Right, thanks for the clarification, I thought the M1A1’s armor was bugged since the value doesn’t show.
Whether it is underperforming or not doesn’t matter when you say it’s not present at all.
Buddy go ahead and check every unclassified document presented, it says alot about whether the Abrams in the game got DU in turret cheeks or not, because i highly suspect they don’t because as Gaijin said their sources are based on export models.
You said
Directly stating the Abrams within the game do not get DU in their protection, not that it is wrong. You stated it does not exist at all.
Yet the thickness of the HC and later models does increase to nearly 750mm of protection.
It just so happens that the HC and above models in the game did receive turret DU in real life, unlike the M1A1, making this consistent with DU addition packages, even if the values are incorrect.
its a bit inaccurate regardless
DU turret on current ingame abrams are base on swedish trial/swedish export model armor which they explicitly stated “substaintially worse” than the domestic model
the protection of actual domestic DU abrams would be same as Leopard 2A7V but without the “breaking wedge” part
and also i pretty sure that the M1A1 turret armor is underperforming anyways
2.2x times the composite but only ~70mm improvement from the M1
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