I had a question while playing this game.
alike “Why do the same machine guns use different ammunition belt compositions?”…
(For example, the French Hispano and British Hispano have different belt compositions, and the SAP ammunition found on the American Vulcan is not available in Japan)
Did Gaijin design the machine gun’s belt composition separately to match historical accuracy?
Usually, yes, they are based on historical information and can be reported.
But they also drag their feet on actually fixing said reports.
I find myself disliking Britain for putting only one high-explosive shell on the belt… :<
I personally quite like the full HE belts on the Sptifires
It kinda bothered me that SAP rounds, which seem less useful than high-explosive rounds, were mixed in…
Also, it seems like Hispano has been in slightly worse condition since the jet age.
As far as im aware they’re generally based on IRL composition, but not too strictly. IE M61A1s use similar belts depending on era, regardless of what the nation actually used, or dshks on certain soviet tanks getting AP(c) rounds despite cermit rounds never being distributed to tank crews.
Historically, 20mm belts would have a good mix of types in the sequence for a few reasons.
The general idea being that in a typical short burst of cannon rounds - you’ve got a decent chance of hitting with something that will do damage to the unfortunate on the other end.
Be in no doubt however - if a 20mm shell hits anything short of a tank - it doesn’t really matter what the precise loading is. It’ll make a mess.
RAF Typhoons are known for their rockets for example, but anecdotal evidence suggests it was the hail of 20mm cannon that tended to properly mess up ground columns as much as anything else.
Linky (scroll down) for those interested.
thx for good reply!!
A clear no - at least for bombers you need less than 3 minutes to find out that heavy US bombers used more or less exclusively AP-I rounds mid to late WW 2. They realized like others that tracers are actually distracting and were not really useful.
But - to be fair the tracer rounds are a aiming support in wt, so it looks like that things like game play support play a role too.
I think “based on” looks somehow right.
The main question is the issue that the first round in the belt still determines the muzzle velocity of the entire belt. So even if you have way faster projectiles in your belt, if the first round in your belt has a slower ammo type all subsequent rounds are not faster than the first.
Also here - no secret, you find a lot of vids on yt describing this.
Yes however they are slow as hell to change based on reports.
Heres a report on the machine gun belts on the tortoise assault tank being wrong.
Heres a report on the machine gun belts on the tortoise assault tank being wrong.
8 MONTHS AGO
im sure with very little effort you will find some going back several years with the same problem
Really so gaijined :(((
Yeah im assuming the belt velocity issue is a bug, its really weird, i wonder if there are any bug reports on it.
I think it was an intentional thing to give consistensy to shell trajectory but has led to a meta where its sometimes better to sacrifice a better frequence of a valued shell for more velocity.
Would like to see custom belt loads so that we can just pick whatever shell we want (however the velocity standardisation would make this slightly exploitable)
The custom belt proposal has been passed on to the developer, but this is also being delayed without any promise…
shame, i would love to just run HE and HE tracer belts on planes or Only HVAP for my CAS strikes
I would love to see that too, but I think the balance problem will follow. Maybe full of hvap belt will use more sp in ground
it probs would but when you actually get enough SP to spawn my choice of CAS plane an extra 50sp isnt much