Is the abrams really that bad realistically?

Germany has and always will be the nation that gets lampooned the most, and at this point Abrams players deserve it, they are the Tiger and Panther mains of US. I’ve read every piece of cope from the ammo isn’t as good as the Arietes, our thermals are the worst at top tier, our reload isn’t realistic and our CAS isn;t as good as MiG-27K ((((

Well they have M829A2 on a 5 second reload, the AIM/SEP/SEP v2 with higher res Thermals and the F-16C with FLIR targeting pods/GBUs and Mavericks and they still regularly struggle to touch 50% W/R

But DU hull will fix things (source: trust me)

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Well,IRL the Abrams performed very well in all of the wars it fought.

The only problem is that it faced RPGs/HEAT most of the time by either infantry or IFVs. Tank-on-tank combat was very scarce and most of the time the enemy were either really unprepared/stressed,they had technologically inferior tanks or had both (like the Iraqis in both of the Gulf Wars)

At the same time,the only recorded losses are mostly caused by either an inexperienced crew or by sheer sfortune (IEDs/lucky ATGM shots and so on)

To add it up,most of the information regarding its armor is classified for obvious reasons

It’s natural to assume, therefore,that its performance in the game can’t be associated with its performance in real life: in the game the armor values are arbitrary,the penetration of the rounds are not pin-point perfect and it faces heavy pression from modern tanks and aircrafts from different countries (something that IRL never faced)

I’m a big fan of the First Gulf War,and i want my M1A1 to be as strong as it was during that war, but understand that it’s quite impossible to do that

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Keep in mind, their recent reload buff came from a report trying to resolve issues with Leclerc.

Last time I checked the Abrams has the largest and most exposed turret ring for all top tier MBTs. Only the Type 10/TKX have a similar situation.

Saying “everyone” is kinda a stretch.

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biggest cap of the 21st century.

None of this is true. The turret ring, UFP, LFP, turret armor, M829A2 (at least), and not having a spall liner are all incorrect.

The US also is not pandered to, you know the thing with the Challenger 2 earlier in the year? That got fixed. The Leo 2 got fixed. Did the Abrams get fixed? No. Everyone wanted to get the F-20 when it was leaked it would be added, and what did Gaijin do? Make it the literal most expensive premium in the game. The US is not pandered to anywhere near as much as Russia. At best it is fourth in line behind Russia, Germany, and Sweden.

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u still yapping the same words? literally that’s what they told u to say 24/7? keep yapping doggy

there’s nothing wrong with American teams, literally when we face sweden-germany-russia in the opposite team, it’s literally americans that get the highest kills, while leclercs die easily, and britain might get some kills, but overrall the american players are really skillful and just lack armor that’s it, leopard hull used to get penned, now it’s not and that really helped alot.

While russians hold W and expect their armor to protect them it’s really shows why their winrates are down next to USA, i kill 9 bvms daily and let’s not count t90 and other squadron vehicles, the only thing that keeps USA winrates down is lack of armor, turret ring exposed to any shell even the WW2 shells, and the matchmaking, and let’s forget about the copy and paste abrams through the tech tree.

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Challenger 2 wasn’t fixed. It got its remodel but Gaijin looked all of the reports of it CR2 and threw them away and nerfed the TES/OES because why not.

The mantlet looks pretty now and is volumetric…too bad its about 200-250mm short of being “correct”.

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Didn’t most of them get a turret (and general) armor buff though? Mantlets not being correct is an every-nation thing

Technically if was “buffed” because the KE and CE modifiers were raised ever so slightly for Turret front and sides, the change has no noticeable impact on its protection.

Oh, so it got the “DU only increases protection by 1-2%” treatment?

Correct.

Are you sure about it? More like Britain and France try to carry US team)
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i’m talking on my experience.

bro you’re literally following me through threads just to call me a gaijin shill 24/7 its getting embarrassing at this point

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Ravano, point is to better represent the effectiveness of the vehicle. In the game, it is not represented as well. This is an issue with many in-game that are depicted worse, or better than they were in reality.

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bcz you’re doggy, spitting facts only.

You speak like an infant

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I don’t know any American games with the same level of bias as WT.

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