Doesn’t surprise me at all. Gajin use Russia Bias to fix Bug. US player complain fix turret ring bug or do something to make abrams great again.
Gajin solution is How about we nerf it? Now Abrams is truely Light Tank with Medium Tank tag.
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Also, move the M1 Abrams (and KVT) to 10.3, it has no reson to sit at 10.7 alongside the Leopard 2A4 and the T-80B when its hands down a worse vehicle, which also breaks the 10.3 US lineup since the M1 is the only 10.7 in the tree, forcing you to 11.7 uptiers with a 10.3 lineup.
Meanwhile the Turms and T-80UD have stayed at 10.3. Premium bias i guess.
Im not even going to mention the A-10A (10.3) and A-10A late (10.7)… while both SU-25 and the SU-17M2 sit at 10.0 on GRB.
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Gaijing doesn’t care about US, only the players wallet
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M1 Abrams is slightly faster, better armored, and has a better reload than the 2A4. It trades all of that for a worse round which is why they’re balanced at the same BR
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nah 8.3-8.7 (M60A1 RISE) is still good in my experience past that though it gets worse
Better armored since when? The enormous turret ring and driver’s port are made of paper, the turret’s right cheek has 390mm of effective armor (same has the center part of the LFP) and the left cheek has around 450mm, same has the left and right sides of the LFP due to fuel tanks and internal armor plating. The breach is also even less armored than those. 2A4 turret has more armor overall but its hull is weaker than the Abrams, thats it.
The reload is 1.1 second faster, while the penetration difference is almost 50mm of flat pen, with a faster and bigger round (more post pen dmg) in favor of the Leopard, which helps a lot in uptiers where the M774 struggles. The better hull armor means nothing and the subpar weapon does not compensate for it. Add to all that that the rest of the lineup would be 10.3 and 10.0 vehicles, with only the Striker being in a good spot (120S is mid and the Bradley is a joke).
No, its not balanced. You are better off ignoring the M1 and playing 10.3 or jumping straight to 11.3/11.7.
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I don’t see how anyone could enjoy playing any variant of the Patton as they’re all just objectively poor tbh.
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m60’s aren’t that bad some of my best vehicles actually
To each their own, I suppose.
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KVT is a very good tank and belongs where it is.
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KVT is a copy pasted M1 Abrams and has the same drawbacks, the only reason you might seem them around more is bc its a premium.
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I know, the same applies to the M1.
They are perfect where they are.
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The Israeli and Ravne modified T-55 (M55S) from Slovenia survived the same.
The reload makes up for the weaker shell, in fact it makes the Abrams better than the Leopard because firing first is better than doing more damage,
They did go up in BR last BR changes, from 10.0 to 10.3. The M1 doesn’t need to go down, since the general conclusion is that it is one of the better tanks at it’s BR.
Reload doesn’t change firing first it changes who follows up first. To leroys point you have a tank 2A4 which will have a faster first shot capability because it can pen almost anywhere on an abrams (some angles might not.) vs a tank that can pen the hull and gun mantle.
There isn’t much of a difference in available target size but too who has a higher first shot chance it would be the leopard.
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KVT is much more maneuverable, faster, and has a faster reload than the 2A4 and T80B (turms and UD included, UD lacks thermals as well). The tradeoff being weaker armor in some spots, but really it’s negligible.
Second shot capability is huge, and something the Abrams has over many tanks. This gets overlooked a lot.
That’s not true at all anymore. It was like that before they added Hydraulic Pump, it was on same level as the 2A4, but after that, on every shot to the hull, you get turret locked and cannot aim and fire back 90% of the time.
No it’s not worse.
It has better armor profile than 2A4 and basically trades raw penetration for reload speed. When you compare it to T-80B, it has worse armor and shell but gets much better gun handling, reload speed, gun depression, reverse speed, ammo compartmentalization, etc.
M1, 2A4 and T-80B are pretty similar tanks and should always stay at the same BR.
Most tanks got moved up with this decompression, including those you’ve just mentioned.
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I disagree alot, 7.7 - 9.0 was the worst for me in terms of US BR. It didn’t get better till the XM803 which was way more fun and mobile enough. M60’s were just slow trash that got penned by everything imo
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