That would be a really fun
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The biggest problem is that those require integrated systems, meaning that there’s a separate radar complex that handles threat acquisition. I don’t know how Gaijin would include that into the game. There would be much better options as far as spaas go.
FIM 92 is already present on a few vehicles in game it wouldn’t be crazy to add it for hmmvw especially because they are IR (mostly) (I assume you’re talking about the fim because tow doesn’t require radar and is an ATGM)
You’re right, I was thinking of something else
itd be weird any otehr way
if an anti air hmmwv is added its should be the SLAMRAM.
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not really, it’d be normal
“The hull and turret of the M1A1 is of advanced armour construction
similar to the Chobham armour developed in the UK and provides
protection against ATGWs and other battlefield weapons”
“Many of the tanks transferred
from the Army did not include the DU armor package, though. This posed somewhat of a
problem as tank battalions shifted tanks around to ensure non-DU tanks did not deploy
with the Marine Expeditionary Units (MEUs) or to OIF. This problem has since been
rectified, and currently, all Marine Corps M1A1 tanks have DU armor. In early 2008, the
Marine Corps began to take delivery of an additional 44 tanks from the Army, raising the
total in the Marine Corps’ inventory to 447 M1A1 Abrams MBTs.”
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Additionally
“Additionally, the MlAl has thicker and much improved
armor. This improved Chobham armor uses depleted uranium.”
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And
“When Kinetic Energy (KE) long-rod
penetrators were invented the old standards were not good enough, which meant heavier and denser
material - Chobham armor and depleted uranium liners within the armor plates.”
Does this mean DU is used wherever there is Chobham?
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you all know @Conraire already talked about this stuff years ago on old forums right? Necrons already knows this stuff. he’s anti u.s and will repeat the same garbage over and over and over he’ll just circle jerk himself over the Swedish test trials which was already proven to him to now be U.S Army standard tanks or protected. He doesn’t care what you show him, who shows it to him. We could bring someone from general dynamics to this website, and they could tll him the abrams has a D.U Hull and he would cry scream and rage saying that guy is a lie and pull out the swedish test trials junk again and say that stuff is the true protection of all the abrams.
I did not know it was already discussed. I didn’t play WT for many years until now.
I don’t want to get into it again with Necrons, but I’ll say this. ALL export models of the Abrams do not leave the US with DU armor
All M1A1 Aims would not have DU armor but all domestic M1s would
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Yeah once I realized it, I was fine with it. Just annoying for those of us that don’t like air so much. It was a pain grinding the few bits I did until I unlocked the jets I started wanting. Not to mention a pain for my wallet.
It’s probably a lot of the same people as me. They’re not a huge fan of air and don’t want to grind it to make their lineup balanced.
That said, it’s also not really balanced(it is and it isn’t) because the SP value to spawn your CAP for AA is just too large comparatively.
I still don’t use CAS, only CAP.
Maybe I should though, might help our win rates
he knows this, its been told to him over 50 times. its best just to block necrons and most of the other russians on this website.
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I think y’all are too harsh on him, agree or disagree I think he’s reasonable as far as his arguments go. Wrong opinion or not, I enjoy reading his posts, it’s a lot of the other detractors that make me want to claw my eyes out.
I’m not sure he’s Russian, or worth going as far to block
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@ileaveuptiers just to show you how long we’ve been dealing with gaijins and their devs, b.s M1A2 Abrams incoming! - Page 6 - General & Upcoming - War Thunder - Official Forum
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There are more secondary sources than stuff like militaryhistory or whatever websites, yes.
From prior threads:
Budget Justifications (the specific year doesn’t really matter for this image, since it just shows the diction), the main website for them is this: Army Financial Management & Comptroller > Budget Materials
M1A1 SA having hull DU: https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/defbudget/fy2013/fy2013_Weapons.pdf
M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank, Owners’ Workshop Manual - Says the M1A1 SA featured hull DU and that the SEPv2 featured all of what the M1A1 SA and SEPv1 had, and that hull DU was a part of the Abrams-family-wide Common Abrams modifications.
Cross-Sections: The M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank - Hull DU
(Can’t find the original image source) - Hull armor improvements
It’s obviously DU. There was testing with DU hulls on M1A1 from at least 1997-2006, then in 2006 the M1A2 SEP retrofits (and production vehicles) got a new armor package the exact same year the DU hull limit was removed.
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Damn, I feel like I wasted a whole bunch of my time now lol
Your sources back up my sources.
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Abrams Du Hull Missing - General & Upcoming - War Thunder - Official Forum gaijin already know the abrams have D.U Hulls people have given them documentation, and gaijin somehow wants these people to tell them the protection DOWN TO THE MILLIMETER. They then deleted the bug report.
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