somebody doesn’t play that BR often or has any map knowledge
so it handles 6.7 tanks perfectly fine and you agree. nice end to the discussion
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id say Tiger E armor is weak at 6.0 you can never perfectly angle cause any tank with 150mm of pen will pen Even angle now that they removed volumetric on turret its a weak spot around the barrel
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peak angle your armor is 120mm on lower side above tracks front plate hits maximum thickness of 140mm
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so every 76 sherman every T34-85 can pen you , tiger E does not desreve BR of 6.0 should go back to 5.7 But no cause everyone complained it had to get raised germany always gets overtiered
Problem is, Realism, Best tank in WW2 but worse tank in War thunder, The IS-2 had a Number ratio towards tigers of 2.5-1 and the main reason of it greatest weakness is because it took part in longer range tank fights which Projectile mass was key, Problem is in War thunder theres no such as Long range tank engagements and if there are, There just Tank destroyer fights, The main reason it isn’t down is the oppisite reason why the long barreled panzer IV is higher, Skill issue, We can all agree here that the Everage IS-2 user is smarter then the King tiger user, Also did you know in emergencies the reload man could up the rate of fire to 3-4? (per minute)
No, I just said it handles uptiers better in terms of fighting 6.7 vehicles.
That doesn’t mean it’s automatically better.
You have to be mental to think that a tank with a 20.8 second reload is going to have as much of an impact as a tank with 7.4s that can penetrate 80% of the same targets with ease.
The Tigers weakspot is just a 40cm tall flat plate on the front compared to double the size of the IS-2s lower plate.
Good luck hitting that from 500m and more.
Any tank can penetrate an IS-2 turret from the front and kill the tank in one shot, while you need a US 90mm to even be able to penetrate the Tigers mantlet reliably.
The Tiger E is simply a better vehicle at 6.0 than the IS-2 is at 6.3.
And at 6.0 both have equal strengths and weaknesses.
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i wouldnt say that tiger E could easily be 5.7
Well, after P2W Tiger with extra track armor have been added at the same or lower BR, it sure feels like it.
Yet in downtiers the Tiger is crazy effective against anything from 4.7-5.7.
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pretty much every 5.7 can kill you cannot perfectly angle
Wow, what an argument. Did you know that the IS-1 is 5.7 and anyone can also kill it?
A 4.7 T14 can one shot it through the cupola.
I would like to see how a US 76mm is going to pen a Tiger E that is just angled 33° anywhere from the front or a T-34-85 when the Tiger is hull down.
And who can kill you doesn’t matter when you are both harder to kill and it’s easier for you to kill the enemy.
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At 300Ms you can shoot corner of the armor and go through its hard but 76 can do it you also get a stablizer giving you first shot cability and highly dont youll ever get perfect 33 degree angle just by eye alone its even easier for 85mms as they have amazing angle performance
you can also shoot turret ring which is only 85 mm thick and you have a stablizer making it easier
Dude, just put your gun near the edge of the armor plate and you have a perfectly angled Tiger.
It’s not that hard.
40° gives the best result for the front plate and upper sides, but leaves the lower sides vulnerable.
Still a small area to target.
how you get compass at the top ?
any smart person at 40 degrees shoots above tracks
It’s just there when you go to test-drive.
Any smart person shoots the spot he can penetrate. That doesn’t mean he is going to hit.
And just like a player might not angle the Tiger correct, the other player might judge the angle incorrectly and shoot where he can’t pen.
The IS-1/2s cupola is a weakspot but it’s not like anyone is going to snipe that with a single shot from 500m when the tank is on the move.
And it’s the same with a Tiger.
I was just in a battle with the Tiger E in a 6.7 match where I bounced like 5 shots and didn’t even know where the shots came from.
But I’m sure that these shots came from 600-1000m and just shows you how good the armor of the Tiger is when it’s not easy to hit one particular frontal weakspot.
But I feel like this now has turned into a discussion about the Tiger Es BR and not the IS-2 mod 1944.
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When people almost forget that M6A2E1 is 6.7 belike:
Not sure what you’re trying to say.
The M6 has the 105mm overpressure cannon with much better reload and penetration.
So it should be a better IS-2.
That seems to be a game problem as it appears that soviet 45 mm tin cans can exaggeratingly deflect everything short of a 128 mm while something with much heavier armor (Tiger) cannot reproduce this in the game:
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