that already happens all the time with fox3 and R27ET missiles. even the worst of pilots can cope with that, you just need to evade before you land.
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just asuming based on how they havent worked on bugreports for other vehicles over 8 months
also their sheer unwillingness to accept anything in favor of the SLM system unless compleatly unrefutable, meanwhile they nerfed the G-overload of the SLS from a single somewhat dubius report… so no. i dont have hard facts, but the likelyhood is high they wont fix it any time soon
(if they were impartial about it they would have fixed the missile speed on the same basis that they nerfed the G pull of the sls)
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Once again, the Pantsir for 2 years has been able to shoot down people on their airfield. Obviously outranging their current maps isn’t why the IRIS-T is being gimped.
I’m agreeing with you btw.
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I agree, it is pretty clear which system will continue to excel at close range, Pantsir with its guns and missiles combo will continue to be oppressive. SLM and IRIS-T will be good in their own ways, specially in the ranges it is currently effective, but having it be gimped before release and devs just ignoring all the evidence suggesting it can faster than Mach 2 is annoying.
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even if it did overtake the pantsir that wouldn’t have done anything for the CAS spam meta since Germany is teamed with RU like 70% of the time, it would just be Pantsir + SLM, while not actually doing anything to counter kh38 spam, if you want kh38 spam to actually stop the best thing to do is ask for better SAMS for the US.
Oh I can’t wait for the people who squad up and pair SLM and Pantsir combos in top tier. That’s gonna be fun :D
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It being FnF alone makes it better than the Pantsir
The SLM has been tested and jets launching Kh 38 from 10-13 km cannot be threatened by the IRIS-T SLM because its artificial speed limit of Mach 2 leaves the missile with no energy left at even 10km when the jet maneuvers at all. Also, the ability to intercept munitions has been dubious at best so far.
Both these metrics are infinitely more important than being “fnf”. If fnf was what made an SPAA effective then the Type 81C would have been considered better than the Pantsir.
Pantsir can effectively intercept any number of munitions launched at it while still being a significant threat out to 15km and something to still be cautious of at 18-20km because of it’s insane speed of Mach 4.
Pantsir will more than likely still be the undisputed top dog spaa if the IRIS t SLM is released in this state.
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But the optical track missiles are better at dealing with jets though, that’s why Strela is viable even at top tier
Didn’t they buff this? afaik someone tested it and got 4/4 Kh-38 kills
Only effective up to 13km at most. Becomes a whale outside of booster phase, only straight flying targets will get hit
Strela is outranged by every single CAS at top tier. It can get kills if the enemy pilot let’s it kill it, not because the spaa is effective. Same with Type 81C. An F16C, EFT or any other CAS at top tier with “non meta” AGMS can quite easily neutralize a Type 81 C by staying out of range and shooting AGMS at his entire team which he can’t do anything about.
Hopefully this is true but there have been as many tests where it flies past the munition without detonating. Still has nothing to do with the jets being able to launch the AGMS from a safe distance in the first place.
This is the favorite argument by Russian mains and is just plainly not true. I have been dogfighting Su 30’s ON THE DECK 18km from a Pantsir and because he had line of sight on a flat desert map, he still was able to shoot me down from 18km. Is the missile as maneuverable at 18km as it is at 10km? No. It is still able to shoot down anything other than a supersonic jet that is actively maneuvering every which way.
I have been 19 km away at altitude, going supersonic, and consistenly changing directions travelling lateral to the Pantsir and it still shot me down. Can the Pantsir consistently do that? No. But it has the ability to threaten anything even out to it’s maximum range.
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Atm I think dev want to bait us to send some sekrit dokumintz, because they are keep asking proof, source, etc. While at same time they can make imaginary stuff from blueprint and actually works in the game. We know how this IRIS-T SLM system actually work so much better since already battle proven.
Btw any info how IRIS-T SLM works against new DIRCM in the game and irl? It so funny if latest SPAA can’t counter this kind of IRCM.
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the speed of the missile, the radar band that only russian engineers can understand, and the magically low drag means it’s the definition of an effective threat past 13 km.
being so fast and stealthy creates a very small reaction window for the target. if the target can’t maneuver in time, then the maneuverability of the missile at long range becomes irrelevant.
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So i found something relevant to a Military study and it corroborates its use in Ukraine about the Missiles speed and range but no G Overload https://armyrecognition.com/military-products/army/air-defense-systems/air-defense-vehicles/iris-t-slm-medium-range-air-defense-missile-system-technical-data
Ofcourse it probably wont do no good
This website has already been submitted, but Gaijin insists that it is an unofficial second-hand news source and refuses to acknowledge the performance parameters on it
Weve been officially Gaijined
Gaijin nerfed IRIS to avoid becoming the fate of another similar game developer.
Even this states Mach 3.
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Nearly every source in existence claims a speed of Mach 3 but to Gaijin SLM is just a worse SLS IRIS-T. I wonder what the bigger booster and motor are for! 🙄
And it’s underperforming badly in game because of how slow it is, at 710 m/s it can’t even hit a manoeuvering plane past 10 km and it can’t even reach 20 km altitude either, it is actually sad.
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Luckly not…
Bevause SL and SLM are the same, just that SL was the name when there was no SLS version, since than they changed it to SLM, but the BW page also says SL, so eh…
cuz no one cares to correct it and diehl is over here also still using the old name.
anyways;
see this is funny because the BodLuv2020 tests showed that the energy left at max range was one of the strong points of iris-t slm
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