Iris-t slm

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557

Don’t care, never have, next

Except that is not the case. With a mortar round, you only need to pierce an already frangible case and detonate the already sensitive explosive behind it.

An IIR you must damage the seeker through any number of optical coatings and in enough area of it to induce a guidance error.

Put that exact system in the back of a Blackhawk (a larger helicopter than most Attack helicopters) and you now have Blackhawk with a low power directed energy weapon and no space for anything else. And it is going to handle like a boat.
You’re not putting that on an already cramped attack helicopter

558

to stay a bit ontopic here. can anyone tell me if this would be an “acceptable” source of any kind ?

559

It does, still hoping we’ll get the look-back scan too.

560

Also, here’s a slide from the BMVg claiming 50km range for the SLM.

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561

probably not

it would be better if you ask a tech mod

562

i also found this Caderno de Ensino - Dados Médios de Planejamento Escolar (DAMEPLAN) (CE 5.80), 1ª Edição, 2025 : Departamento de Educação e Cultura do Exército (DECEx) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive claiming to have a range of 60km against an aproaching target (with speed of the target but sadly not the missile)

563

How you came to the conclusion that a mortar that needs to hold up to an explosion to be fired is frangible i do not understand…

You’re not going to need a laser with this much power:

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To damage an anti air missile enough to defeat it.

Or just damage the glas in front of the seeker enough so that it can no longer see.

Yes? that was not part of the original argument. You said you couldn’t, i said you can. i never said it would be practical or even worth the effort, i just said that you can.

This is however off topic now, if you want to continue this then please do so in PM’s.

564

it isnt a proper source either bc it uses estimations
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565

he likes changing the argument when he starts loosing it, had that happen before

567

Dude literally DIRCMs are on attack helicopters today for example they exist on the AH-64E Apache look it up

569
Current NCTR list 
 {
"name": "hud/mig_15",
      "targetType": [
        "mig-15",
        "mig-15_ns23",
        "mig-15bis_ns23",
        "mig-15bis_nr23_german",
        "mig-15bis_nr23_hungary",
        "mig-15bis_nr23_china",
        "mig-15bis_ish"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/yak_38",
      "targetType": [
        "yak-38",
        "yak-38m"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/yak_141",
      "targetType": "yak_141"
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/su_17",
      "targetType": [
        "su_17m2",
        "su_17m4",
        "su_22m3",
        "su_22m3_hungary",
        "su_22um3k",
        "su_22m4",
        "su_22m4_de_wtd61"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/su_24",
      "targetType": "su_24m"
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/su_25",
      "targetType": [
        "su_25",
        "su_25k",
        "su_25t",
        "su_25tm",
        "su_25_558arz",
        "su_25sm3"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/su_27",
      "targetType": [
        "su_27",
        "su_27sm",
        "su_33",
        "su_34",
        "su_30sm",
        "j_11",
        "j_11a",
        "j_11b"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/mig_21",
      "targetType": [
        "mig-21_bis_lazur",
        "mig-21_bison",
        "mig-21_f13",
        "mig-21_smt",
        "mig-21_bis",
        "mig-21_bis_sau",
        "mig-21_bis_sau_hungary",
        "mig-21_mf",
        "mig-21_mf_hungary",
        "mig-21_sps_k",
        "mig-21_pfm",
        "mig-21_s",
        "mig_21_bis_finland",
        "j_7_mk2",
        "j_7d",
        "j_7e"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/mig_23",
      "targetType": [
        "mig_23m",
        "mig_23bn",
        "mig_23mf_germany",
        "mig_23mf_hungary",
        "mig_23ml",
        "mig_23mld",
        "mig_23mla",
        "mig_27m",
        "mig_27k"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/mig_29",
      "targetType": [
        "mig_29_9_13",
        "mig_29_9_12g",
        "mig_29_9_12_germany",
        "mig_29_9_12b_hungary",
        "mig_29smt_9_19",
        "mig_29smt_9_19_missile_test"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_4",
      "targetType": [
        "f-4c",
        "f-4e",
        "f-4j",
        "f-4s",
        "f-4ej",
        "f-4ej_adtw",
        "f-4ej_kai",
        "f-4m_fgr2",
        "f-4jk",
        "f-4k",
        "f-4f",
        "f-4f_late",
        "f-4f_kws_lv",
        "f-4e_iaf",
        "f-4e_kurnass_2000"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_5",
      "targetType": [
        "f-5a",
        "f-5a_china",
        "f-5ag_norway",
        "f-5e_aidc",
        "f-5e_fcu_thailand",
        "f-5a_thailand",
        "f-5t_thailand",
        "f-5c",
        "f-5e"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/a_7",
      "targetType": [
        "a_7d",
        "a_7e",
        "a_7e_thailand",
        "a_7k"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_8",
      "targetType": [
        "f-8e",
        "f-8e_fn",
        "f8u-2"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/a_10",
      "targetType": [
        "a_10a_early",
        "a_10a_late",
        "a_10c"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_104",
      "targetType": [
        "f-104a",
        "f-104c",
        "f-104g",
        "f-104a_china",
        "f-104g_china",
        "f-104g_italy",
        "f-104j",
        "f-104s",
        "f-104s_cb",
        "f-104s_asa",
        "f-104g_belgium"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_105",
      "targetType": "f-105d"
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_111",
      "targetType": [
        "f_111a",
        "f_111f",
        "f_111c_raaf"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_14",
      "targetType": [
        "f_14a_early",
        "f_14a_iriaf",
        "f_14b"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_15",
      "targetType": [
        "f_15a",
        "f_15a_iaf",
        "f_15j",
        "f_15j_kai",
        "f_15c_msip2",
        "f_15c_baz_msip",
        "f_15e",
        "f_15i_raam"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_16",
      "targetType": [
        "f_16a_block_10",
        "f_16a_block_15_adf",
        "f_16a_block_15_adf_italy",
        "f_16a_block_15_ocu_thailand",
        "f_16a_block_10_iaf",
        "f_16a_block_10_netz_mod",
        "f_16a_block_15_belgium",
        "f_16am_block_15_mlu_belgium",
        "f_16c_block_40_barak_2",
        "f_16d_block_40_barak_2",
        "f_16d_block_40_barak_2_missile_test",
        "f_16a_block_20_mlu",
        "f_16aj",
        "f_16c_block_50",
        "f_16c_block_50_missile_test"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_18",
      "targetType": [
        "fa_18a",
        "fa_18c_early",
        "fa_18c_late",
        "fa_18c_finland"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/f_20",
      "targetType": "f_20a"
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/harrier",
      "targetType": [
        "harrier_gr1",
        "harrier_gr3",
        "harrier_frs1_early",
        "harrier_frs1",
        "harrier_gr7",
        "harrier_t10",
        "sea_harrier_fa2",
        "av_8a",
        "av_8b_na",
        "av_8b_plus",
        "av_8b_plus_italy",
        "av_8c",
        "av_8s_thailand",
        "av_8s_late_thailand"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/jaguar",
      "targetType": [
        "jaguar_is",
        "jaguar_gr1a",
        "jaguar_gr1",
        "jaguar_e",
        "jaguar_a",
        "jaguar_a_killstreak",
        "jaguar_a_germany_killstreak",
        "jaguar_a_italy_killstreak",
        "jaguar_a_japan_killstreak",
        "jaguar_a_sweden_killstreak",
        "jaguar_a_uk_killstreak",
        "jaguar_a_usa_killstreak",
        "jaguar_a_iaf_killstreak"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/tornado",
      "targetType": [
        "tornado_gr1",
        "tornado_gr4",
        "tornado_f3",
        "tornado_f3_late",
        "tornado_ids_de_mfg",
        "tornado_ids_de_assta1",
        "tornado_ids_de_wtd61",
        "tornado_ids_it",
        "tornado_ids_it_mod95",
        "tornado_ids_it_ret8",
        "tornado_adv"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/buccanier",
      "targetType": [
        "buccaneer_s1",
        "buccaneer_s2",
        "buccaneer_s2b"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/typhoon",
      "targetType": [
        "ef_2000_fgr4",
        "ef_2000a",
        "ef_2000_block_10"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/q_5",
      "targetType": [
        "q_5_early",
        "q_5a",
        "q_5l",
        "a_5c"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/jh_7",
      "targetType": "jh_7a"
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/j_8",
      "targetType": [
        "j_8b",
        "j_8f",
        "j_8f_missile_test"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/j_10",
      "targetType": "j_10a"
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/jf_17",
      "targetType": "jf_17"
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/amx",
      "targetType": [
        "amx_a_1a_brazil",
        "amx"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/mirage_f1",
      "targetType": [
        "mirage_f1c_200",
        "mirage_f1c",
        "mirage_f1ct"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/mirage_3",
      "targetType": [
        "mirage_3c",
        "mirage_3cj",
        "mirage_3e",
        "mirage_milan",
        "mirage_5ba",
        "kfir_canard",
        "kfir_c2",
        "kfir_c7",
        "kfir_c10_colombia"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/mirage_2000",
      "targetType": [
        "mirage_2000_5f",
        "mirage_2000_5f_missile_test",
        "mirage_2000_5ei",
        "mirage_2000c_s4",
        "mirage_2000c_s5",
        "mirage_2000d_r1",
        "mirage_2000d_rmv"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/mirage_4000",
      "targetType": "mirage_4000"
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/rafale",
      "targetType": "rafale_c_f3"
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/draken",
      "targetType": [
        "saab_j35xs",
        "saab_j35d",
        "saab_j35a"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/viggen",
      "targetType": [
        "saab_aj37",
        "saab_ja37",
        "saab_ja37d",
        "saab_ja37di",
        "saab_ja37di_f21",
        "saab_ajs37"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/gripen",
      "targetType": [
        "saab_jas39a",
        "saab_jas39c_south_africa",
        "saab_jas39c_south_africa_missile_test",
        "saab_jas39c_hungary",
        "saab_jas39c_thailand",More actions
        "saab_jas39c"
      ]
    },
    {
      "name": "hud/single prop",
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570

Yes indeed my bad i thought you were referring to them not being on Attack Helicopters. But you are correct they are however not reliable enough or powerful enough to defeat more modern IIRs.

571

Bro, just use the code

Code function on WT forum

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572

I tried but it just let me laptop freeze xd

573

they changed the name to “IRIS-T SL”

oh hey look a window

574

But… Why? That’s the old name of the SLM…

575

They just removed an line in the file for the SLM, thats it

576

well not quite,

the list of diplayed names (not every aircraft it can identify)
  • Mig-15
  • Yak-38
  • Yak-141
  • Su-17
  • Su-24
  • Su-25
  • Su-27
  • Mig-21
  • Mig-23
  • Mig-29
  • F-4
  • F-5
  • A-7
  • F-8
  • A-10
  • F-104
  • F-105
  • F-111
  • F-14
  • F-15
  • F-16
  • F-18
  • F-20
  • Harrier
  • Jaguar
  • Tornado
  • Buccanier
  • EF
  • Q-5
  • JH-7
  • J-8
  • J-10
  • JF-17
  • AMX
  • Mirage F1
  • Mirage 3
  • Mirage 2000
  • Mirage 4000
  • Rafale
  • Draken
  • Viggen
  • Gripen
577

We were talking about the removed iris_t_sl line…
So thats it…

578

Guys, you heared it here first, but the SLM isnt an Missile xD

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I mean, he is correct the SLM is also an Launcher but what does he mean with"Its capable to launch Diffrent Missiles"?
SLS? not Possible…
SLM? Yes…
SLX? Still in development…
HYDEF? maybe in 10-20 years…

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