this is what i mean when i say i think the acceleration is wrong
Good luck proving that xD
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There is already a Bug Report that covers DLIRCCM for IRIS-T that got accepted. There is no need to make more bug Reports of the same kind. you can look at This bug report that covers the "Data Links side of the DLIRCM issue ore look at This one that got Accepted and covers DLIRCCM (or IRCCM against Blinding Lasers if you want to put it that way).
Yeah… Gaijin always requests “(historical) sources” for basic things like aerodynamics and physics lol
No joke, they wanted me to provide historical sources that the MiG-23 (before the FM nerf) doesn’t accelerate faster while rolling (higher acceleration than level flight), which it did. Aerodynamical logic says that control surfaces in the airstream produce drag and therefore pose a hindrance → higher drag of the plane → slower acceleration or even slowing down.
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Too bad they ask for source and source and then don’t accept classified sources 😔
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That is something a marketing lier would say.
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gonna pulla switcharoo
“Yes IRIS-T SL(S) will receive LDRICCM capabilities”
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nerfed and bugged SAMs in the game try to counteract pilots (who pride themselves on “skillful dodging” of SAM missiles that are not working properly):
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if the characteristics of the SAMs and their missiles in the game were real, then the encounters between the aircraft and the SAMs would look different:
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Too bad it’s a game.
And wait until anti radiation missiles arrive, can’t wait for the whining.
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Oh well we will see
If anti-radar missiles were effective, do you think that modern air defense systems would not use radar variants vulnerable to them? Or do you think differently?
I suspect that there are some tactics or means against anti-radar missiles other than turning off the radar. But at the moment it is not disclosed.
they are effective, if not intercepted in time
for the same reason SAM operators in yugoslavia werent allowed to run the radar all the time
they were supposed to do 2 or 3 scans and then pack their things and relocate to avoid being hit by a HARM
or use microwave ovens as decoys. I know and have heard of what you described above, but this is an unacceptable tactic in reality due to the lack of effectiveness of the SAM in this case. Probably this was used due to old obsolete radars, for radars of modern development after 2000-2010 the method of solving the fight against anti-radar missiles should look different than switching off and changing positions.
Changing positions looks especially funny in War Thunder, where, for example, on the Fulda map, from a certain team position, it is impossible to leave the respawn on such SAMs as the IRIS-T / Pansir S1 - almost immediately after appearing at the beginning of the battle, when you try to change positions and move over a mountain, they start shooting at you almost from the enemy respawn. And there are many such maps. But silly iron birds need to continue pressing the button and defeat the nerfed unrealistic SAMs in the game.
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Modern tactics are mostly decoys, guard radars and broad LPI features.
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It’s very effective which is why nations use it. It has moved well on from “turn the Radar off”
I would love some kind of missile in the British tree that can see SAMs we suffer enough having to use Brimstones against the OP nonsense that is the IRIS-T SLM.
Yes I know Kh-38s still kill you and Gaijin conveniently added DIRCM to every Russian helicopter while making playing any other helicopter against the system pure suicide.
i guess jamming could also work. i think modern radars are strong enough to spot the ARMs and intercept them in time. but the number of targets would be the main issue. i can see this being a huge issue in war thunder US/RUS/china will dominate if they add ARMs , because these 3 tts have proper fighters that can use ARMs unlike other tts.
I understand what you mean and I am not against the introduction of full brimstones with their real performance characteristics. But I do not believe that laser countermeasure stations are actually effective against in the real life IRIS T.
Just as I do not believe in the effectiveness of HARM anti-radar missiles (and Soviet Russian analogues) against the latest type of AESA radar like the IRIS T. AESA uses a lot of tricks in order to prevent the ARM seeker from capturing itself. DIEHL clearly has access to the latest types of HARM AGM88 and designed the radar taking into account the hypothetical possibility of combat against these missiles, and the Soviet-Russian missiles Kh-31 and Kh-58 are already quite old and could not have been developed taking into account the encounter with the IRIS T radar.
If we are to believe the description of the AFAR, then the latest sophisticated computerized AFAR radars are practically invulnerable to ARM. Accordingly, ARMs will be just firecrackers and another target for interception for the SAM, which will not even be able to determine the exact location of the radar or even the square where the SAM is located.
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