Nvm he edited his response and moved the goalpost.
BUT he did call it secondary source.
Do we have other confirmed secondary sources for the performance ?
So it looks like developers think SLS and SLM missiles are same? literally wt* SLS is short range missile SLM is medium range missile and is larger SLX long ranger which in development will probably be capable 80 so also may be larger
how about in real battles is it same as before easy to dodge at longer ranges?
Gaijin thinks the SLM is just a worse SLS. The SLM is a dedicated ground launched version of the regular IRIS-T, and therefore it should achieve better performance than SLS. But Gaijin thinks otherwise.
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HYDEF is also primarily for ships but theyve only recently been marketing it as ground launched too…
IRIS-T SL is the family; thats what diehl told me (and also why the missile is called SLM now)
but what do i know
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i dont understand how 2 secondary sources (one for missile time on target) and the other for speed , confirmed by him is now a seconday source aswell still makes them not belive the mach 3 number you would think that reaching a target after a specific time at a know distance… you know, gets you some idea about the speed…
anyways, i still wonder what they gona do to get the missile to 40km
Probably decrease the explosive charge nerfing the warhead and making it a paper tube that just falls apart at mach 1 to the target at 40km… idk no other way makes any sense
They don’t think, they know that the missiles are different. But if they implement SLM properly it would end easy KH-38 fragging. Which they don’t want, so they woul use any excuse to keep the missile gimped.
I’m quite curious is the S-300 would be gimped in similar fashion.
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the original argument was that systems capable of melting IIR seekers can’t be ‘equipped’ on ‘helis’ - you bargained by saying that transport helis can carry such systems if they are fully dedicated to that task. that’s not anywhere in the realm of DIRCM equipment
essentially you’re saying ABM DE weapons can be equipped on fighter jets because the boeing YAL-1 exists… maybe part of you realized that, resulting in you pulling the off topic card
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If I remember correctly it’s also a chemical laser. Not conventional one…
wow this looks bad hope you guys can get them to listen
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you know whats sad looking at the stats the FB-10A is gonna have more energy at 12+km than either the SLAMRAAM or IRST SLM
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@Gunjob Sorry to bring you into this but can you look into this report? I feel like we’re getting disrespected for these reports we’re trying to do…
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To be fair, the sources provided in the report were pretty bad, ranging from Brazilian “essay” style research making bogus claims like SLM having a maximum speed of 450 m/s and 60km range to literal sabotage manual for Novorussians, translated to Chinese…
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You can click on the list though
This is 8 years ago:
(US Army tests laser on Apache helicopter) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW757uG8Op0)
Not only is it possible, it has been done, not to a large scale, and again; might not be practical. But completely possible.
Is there actually a source for the IRIS-T being affected by in service laser based DIRCMs? Like, real world data or anything like that? Because all the data that I know of point towards the IRIS-T being very unlikely to be affected by it unless its a high energy laser beyond what any modern day DIRCM can provide.
That was one of the big reasons why they did not use a traditional FPA seeker, after all.
any good news on the slm?
or is it still the same performance as before?
Even if it would be affected: The DIRCM can only blind one missile at a time as there is only one laser. It wouldn’t blind multiple missiles at the same time. I don’t know how it’s modelled in game.