At least for now, the performance of these so-called theater level air defense systems is far from meeting expectations, which is extremely disappointing
It is interesting. Usually the solid rocket fuel propellant is aluminium based and burns orange. The flame here is red, which indicates that (even if just partly) there is lithium mixed in (which burns bright red and is also used in red fireworks for the color). Lithium is even more reactive than aluminium and there is active research ongoing:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1385894724059400
If that’s the case you can’t even apply a general estimation to the missiles thrust based on current solid fuel rockets which use fuels like “APCP” (Stinger) as it will fall short.
Who wants to frame-count the video (with the launcher as reference) to find out the speed and acceleration after the missile left the tube? :D
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what happen here
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There really IS a definition for the term “effective range”, even if a little vague but still.
However, effective range specifically refers to the maximum distance within which the desired effect is highly likely to be achieved in the event of a hit with weapon fire. The effect is generally the neutralization of the target (killing an infantry soldier, penetrating armor, the effectiveness of a rubber bullet, the depth of penetration of an arrow with a sporting bow, etc.). Therefore, the effective range also requires a certain minimum target speed (hit speed) for sufficient penetration.
So “effective range” DOES NOT mean “the missile hits the ground while stalling and falling out of the sky”.
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What happened to the Mach 3 bug report, I can’t open it
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Censorship as it seems… Hide it so the people forget.
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It seems that the administrator intentionally hid it or simply deleted it
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even after we got permession to use the report
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@Dontkev-psn
Hey i think i might just have found something if it hasn’t already been found.
For this one, in this video: (https://youtu.be/GBDmnKd8mBI?si=_FzfkGWoD5HxNNiH) at 2:17 you can see a list of information, center screen to the right, it lists “Slant range” . I don’t know if that helps in any way but i hope it does :)
Edit:
Thx @IronPuma for the vid link ^^
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do we know anything about what they are doing with the missing range rport btw?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/NbRv9CEI6Eb8
like, they are not just ignoring it right?
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No idea, i sadly have zero insight into development and bug-report handling.
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Very good spotting :))))
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Hehe they run Windows on these systems :D
And if I’m not mistaken that screen only shows radar data? 18 km range, 965 m altitude and a speed of 166 m/s? Might be wrong or it’s a speed range. Can’t read the latter number.
That is what i could make out it:
and the that the target is apparently moving away from the radar, judging by the second section below.
Type: Track
Track Label: 10
Slant Range: 18.663 km
Bearing: 305.191 °
Elevation: 2.970 °
Speed: 166.714 m/s
Course: 180.120°
Sadly doesn’t look like its of much use to us. :/
A Time to target or similar would’ve been very useful in that case.
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Yeah I don’t think Diehl would leave any bread crumbs for us :(
The “slant range” could perhaps be in terms of minimum lock/engagement distances for the radar as devs have previously asked if it’s ground distance or slant range.
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This whole thing seems like its about to get its own “Let’s discuss the Abram’s Armor/Western MANPADs” Dev post here soon.
"We’ve heard your frustration and here’s what we intend do to:
Almost nothing. Here’s a small token improvement that does almost nothing to address your concerns. Our hidden sources say we are right and we will continue to monitor performance (not really) in the event further changes are needed at a later time (expect one official nerf and about three stealth nerfs)."
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