you get better protection tho,
common consensus is that it is better than the german leo2
and its round isnt that bad imo
The round isn’t that bad, as I play a lot of Israel, but it’s going to struggle at further ranges due to not having 630 pen.
fair enough
122s definitely aren’t better than 2A7s.
They lack thermal quality and get a substantially worse round which isn’t able to go through K5 UFPs, which isn’t the case for L/55 DM53.
SS definitely has value as it generates stats from millions of games.
I don’t know how true this is.
Pantsir is like several years newer than ADATS and Flarak but somehow has more battles under it’s belt, and in May it had as many battles as those two latter ones combined. RU definitely has strong AA presence.
Your statement about aircraft is directly conflicting with reports of who knows how many people saying they can’t live from the 38MT spam happening every single game. I can also use your argument against you and say RU has WR as high as this and 38MT is this problematic only because players from other nations don’t bother to research and spawn their CAP, which would easily mitigate most of the threats.
I’ve made the expierience that these surplus pen values won’t change the way you have to aim at enemy tanks. So A7 has higher pen, whose practical significance is rather low.
While Strv’s have better armor and better mobility…cause this super armor weighs significantly less than 30 years more modern A7 armor modules (which are worse on top .)
I dont understand why people think pen is the only stat that matters. Weight and diameter (diameter is hidden in game) are also super important if not more important than pen because they determinen the amount of spalling. The swedish/israeli round is the heaviest of all top tier MBT. Its also has a larger diameter than DM53. Making it have a lot more spalling. So in my opinion the Swedish have the better dart.
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This simply isn’t true, for long rod darts (all top tier rounds) spalling is only affected by residual penetration, which means more pen = better.
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Damm I didn’t know what, do they have identical residual penetration stats?
I think so as it wasn’t mentioned in the video.
This should be applicable for all long rod darts above 76mm, so for example HSTV-L’s round isn’t using this formula for spall.
Just randomly hopping into this conversation to say that was a very informative video. I don’t datamine so my understanding of the game comes from personal experience and from CC’s that I watch. Justinplays once said in a video that projectile mass has a lot to do with post pen damage (and that makes sense in my head) so I always operated off of that.
Personal experience tells me that the M1 Abrams round has terrible post pen damage but I guess that has to do with the thicker armor it fights relative to it’s low pen value. XM803 sabot doesn’t give me nearly as much trouble even though it also has low pen values but maybe it is just because it fights thinner armor?
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Depends what type of round he was talking about.
Can’t really recall if that round is short or long rod, if it’s former than that video doesn’t really work for it.
So KH38 spam, i was killed today 4 times in one game once in my black knight where i had 5 kh38’s launched at me from 3 separate planes around 3 mins into the match i then died. went challenger E killed by KH38, ADATS KH38 and guess where they were launching them from over 13km away.
In total in the session ive just done out of 20 games which is what i tallied i was against Russia for 2 the other 18 i was against them even with smoke and moving away from the smoke I got killed 33 times out of which i had over 70 KH38’s fired at me every game without fail as soon as Russia mains get enough SP they either jump in a SU30sm, SU34 or SU25SM3.
What Gaijin should do is make SP work the same for aircraft as it does for tanks so if you die in your fighter you cant then jump straight into a strike aircraft. This would at least ease the issue of the kh38 spam. On a personal note i wish they would implement brimstones accurately but that’s for another day.
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I suppose things will drastically change after the new update drops.
In my opinion we should receive TO, as in these higher BRs tanks simply are a passenger in the fight against CAS, which isn’t fun.
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Could this mean Sweden could get the SLM in the far future?
they will probably get it once the IRIS-T SLM isnt that relevant ingame anymore
Yes, as Sweden is known to receive irrelevant things.
When they actively operate it yes, but not before that
2028 delivery. Then it needs to be trialed and adoped into the armed forces. So 2028-2030 would be the date imho. By then the System might already have the SLX as standard missile.
Well that’s why I said Far in the future lol