You mean IRCCM? Radar seekers would have ECCM.
Sounds not good :(
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Also IR missiles with 2 way DL, you don’t want them to jam your DL
I wonder if we’ll get larger maps so when I spawn in I’m not immediately bombed, targeted or strafed by aircraft.
Lets look at the best ground launched anti air missile in the game.
95Ya6 (Pantsir) vs IRIS-T SLM
95Ya6 20km launch range | IRIS-T SLM 12km (Should have 40km with a radar lock the IR seeker will track when close enough to the target otherwise it uses IOG/2WAYDL to guide the missile towards the target)
95Ya6 5,5kg explosive mass | IRIS-T SLM 4,5kg (Should have around 11.4kg no idea why its filler is halfed in War Thunder)
95Ya6 1,300 m/s with 30 seconds guidance time | IRIS-T SLM 710m/s with 150 seconds guidance time (Should have 1029 m/s (Mach3) with 80+ seconds gudiance time)
Now the part that makes the least sense…
95Ya6 Calibre 90 mm, mass 72.5kg | IRIS-T SLM Calibre 180mm, mass 155kg
How do these stats even make any sense? What type of magic are we talkin about here? I have no idea where they found these stats. Every information I found over the SLM is that the missile has around 127mm in calibre with something around 100kg weight. But it gets a bit confusing here, there is multiple missile for the IRIS-T system aka the SLS, SLM, SLX and HYDEF (which is currently in development). I wonder if they mixed up different missile types or something.
Non of the specs in this game for modern equipment makes any sense anymore (Not all but most). Not even balance wise… But yea I’m sure they got some sort of excuse on why this missile is a marketing lie again and they gonna fabricate some sort of story around it to justify the missile being the worst ground launched IR/IOG/DL missile for its age in the game.
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AFAIK that would be the SLS which uses the unchanged IRIS-T missile (127 mm diameter and 88 kg instead of 100 kg) with it’s four stage burn-profile rocket motor.
The SLM has 152 mm diameter (two stage rocket motor with more than double the fuel and more thrust) and weights around 140 kg (according to a swiss interview with a representative of Diehl) while being around 51 cm longer.
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SL but what about the SLM. SL could mean anything because there is multiple.
SL was the earlier name of the SLM before it got renamed to SLS, SLM, SLX and HYDEF.
But wasnt the early version the SLS? Thats what I could gather
The SL (now SLM) was the standard variant and the first version to be developed in 2007 AFAIK. Later the SLS was developed as a shorter range option using the default IRIS-T missile. The SLX was announced 2024. So to be in line with the others the SL was renamed to SLM.
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At the start there was only IRIS-T (air launched) and IRIS-T SL as the “M” was the only surface launched version. When the “normal” air launched IRIS-T started being used as surface launched they named them SLS and SLM. So SLS = IRIS-T (Air launched) and SL (old designation) = SLM and then newer version after that came as well.
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Production and Deployment Years
IRIS-T SLS Development began in 2007, with initial test flights in 2009. Series production started in 2014, and the first delivery was made to Sweden in 2019.
IRIS-T SLM After a successful test series in 2015, the German military began its own trials in 2017. Operational readiness was achieved in 2022, and the first delivery to Ukraine occurred in October 2022.
IRIS-T SLX Development began in 2021, with planned introduction starting in 2028.
Acording to the german Wikipedia.
I’m reading the german wikipedia too and it states these development dates for the SLM and not the SLS. That whole part about the development history talks about the SLM.
I think here lies the problem: The development of the SLM (under the name SL) started before the SLS but the SLS entered service earlier than the SLM (2010 vs 2017), because the development was easier/faster by using the standard missile.
Your right, its a bit confusing. There is a good amount of information about the missile but I think some sources got some specs mixed up. I guess the only thing we should take for granted is the Diehl Defense documents.
Yes and if some missile is called “SL” it refers to the “SLM”.
By the way, the SLX would be one mighty missile.
He’s massive haha
IRIS-T SLM began as part of MEADS. It was supposed to be the secondary missile for the TLVS. At that time, it was just called IRIS-T SL. After the TLVS got canned and the shorter range IRIS-T SLS got made, the SL was renamed to SLM.
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it does not.
152 is to small. the 152mm claim comes from a very early newspaper article about SLM; it is not accurate. real figure is likely 7 inches or 177.8mm
it is going to be a mighty missile but its far from done.
Egypt is the first customer and theres interest from others as well, including Germany. Do know thought that this model shown here is… well… it does not match the model they showed in some powerpoint slides…
This thing is completely a piece of shit right now, really.
The radar’s refresh rate is too slow to track the position of supersonic targets in real time, causing the missile to always pursue the target’s previous position and fail to activate the infrared guidance seeker. The missile’s maximum speed inexplicably drops from Mach 3 to Mach 2, and in actual combat, it cannot even reach the Mach 2 limit—its speed drops below Mach 1 after flying 10 kilometers. Can a missile with such speed really hit the target? Additionally, the missile’s guidance ratio is too large, wasting its already limited energy on unnecessary pre-judgments. Overall, this missile is even inferior to the VT1. If it appears in the official server in this state, why would I need to obtain it?
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