IRCCM type on the PL-8B [Poll]

everyone saying whatever it has IRL clearly dont know much about missiles. nearly if not all of the missiles with IRCCM are implemented wrong, think of it this way, you have a computer in a missile, its literally only a few lines of code to implement seeker shut off, if you see more than 1 heat source, switch to INS until only 1 heat source is left. Its not a new technology only in certain missiles. in real life i can gauruntee missiles uses dozens of techniquies to ignore flares. from shape recognition, temperature, spectral analysis, probably even AI algorithms. The IRCCM methods are also highly classified, so gaijin is basically just guessing, theres no reason they have to choose fov over seeker shut off. gaijin has proven time and time again theyre perfectly willing to add classified vehicles and weapons and take a wild guess to its performance. but if you want it changed it needs tons of sources. Gaijin changing this missile to a different IRCCM is perfectly reasonable since theres no proof it uses FOV gating anyway. it almost definitely has more advanced IRCCM than in game (same as ty90, stingers, aam3, etc)

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i agree in that the PL-8B should recive the seeker shutoff and also something i want to mention is that its time for the Python-4 to come too.

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It has a multi-element seeker, so way too advanced to be added at the moment.

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not really, it needs the seeker have the ability of distinguishing planes and flares, so it need a dual band seeker.

It should have both, sharing seeker type and technology with the TY-90 it should have both types of IRCCM

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its not distuingishing between flares and planes. that would need an imaging sensor which we dont have in game yet and some far more complex machine learning algorithms.

Detecting 2 heat sources and switching to inertial navigation does not take any additional sensors or quipment the missile doesnt already have

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current shutdown IRCCM is based on this. if it detects flares, it will shutdown, not detecting 2 heat sources

you dont even know whatare you talking about.
ty90 have both shutdown and gatewidth. its gatewidth is 1.25 degree.

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should pl8b be shut off missile simply because you THINK it should be so? completely nonsense.

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The PL-8B is gatewidth because the Devs think it should be. It is an unfair and artificial nerf to it’s capabilities.

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Thank you for all those who voted, this feedback will hopefully be passed to the devs soon.

Also, I’m noticing quite a number of accounts who joined within the last 10 minutes suddenly voting No. I will not attribute this to anything malicious but please don’t try to bot the polls.

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well actually the guidance mode of this missile is same as the TY-90. You should change it to a combination of seeker shutoff + gate width if you want to restore it original design purpose

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considering it has a ty-90 seekerhead in real life it should get the irccm it gets

It’s very simple: someone posted this poll on Tieba. No one is trying to manipulate the vote, it’s just that they don’t have the habit of reading the forums, and they will jump in when someone posts a message on their own forum saying “need support in XXX vote”.

The general view of the Chinese community is that in most cases, gate width > seeker shutdown. Although shutdown is better for long-range sneak attacks to a certain extent, it is generally believed that it is far inferior to gate width in combat.

BTW I chose to turn off the seeker because my R-27ET was often hit by random flares.

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Many Chinese palyers prefer to Gatewidth missile, like me, i just know this vote and ask my friends to vote, we not bot

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Ah, this is the information I needed. The influx of new accounts is not what I expected.

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the r-27et suffers with gate width with because the fov is still twice as big as things like the r-73 or magic-2

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Those who choose gatewidth,tell me how much 6000tan0.75° is?39m!Which can contain 6 f15 in it.You think it’s good for a long-range missile?

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The reality is pretty simple they choose that irccm because thats what the Russians use and they like to match Equipment between the two nations, same reason aam3 got tracking suspension irccm.

Currently in the game, the fov of the gatewidth missile will return to its original FoV after the seeker shutdown, which happen on TY-90. Does it also work like this in real life?