Introducing War Thunder Wiki 3.0!

Problem:

100 battles in a game mode that takes 2/3 hours is different to 100 battles in a game mode that takes 5-10 minutes.

Unless they use the “30 minutes of battle time is equal to 1 battle” as they do for boosters, I’m not a fan of pushing things to 100 battles.

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One issue I ran into:

Easier, at-glance overview of related vehicles by nation & vehicle type.

On the old wiki, I could scroll to the bottom of the page of say, IL-2 and see for instance all USSR strike craft.

Now, it’s much less obvious how to obtain this data.

Also aircraft engine information seems to be less detailed. I recall being able to see actual data on thrust and also MEC settings.

I cannot find information about MEC settings for the planes I fly.

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So if I want to search for the battle pass information where do I go?

They could use an AI to fill in the gaps of copy paste vehicles tbf

Please add a section for MEC settings. These are fairly vital for both cranking out an edge in performance, and just flying in an immersive way for simmers if the aircraft did not realistically have automatic engine controls.

Learning these through trial and error is possible, but it’s a fair bit of excess effort. Looking up the plane’s manuals and technical databooks is not always applicable either due to different modelling.

Especially if we’re talking german planes with how easy it is to utterly destroy your engine by using MEC wrong. I fly mostly american navy and japanese planes (and I’ve figured out optimal gear switches and the like) but if I wanted to learn the Fw190s or bf109s, where am I supposed to go?

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This information was in the articles about vehicles. The editors plan to gradually transfer the existing articles to the new version of the wiki.

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Thank you for the information, I suggest to update the original news article with info like this.

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I think this part is now easier, at the main “Aircraft” page there is a function at the top to filter by nation/type/rank/BR/regular,squad,premium/specific features.


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You can even click the “tree” button on the far right to show the nations tree and all the vehicles that match the filters are highlighted


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There really is a LOT of nice new features with this change that i think many players are missing as they notice one issue and get blinded by it (lack of crucial information), an issue that is also likely not that hard of a fix.

I recommend players to actually spend some time with the new wiki and look around in it before making a hasty comment about how “its super bad and the old one was better” just because a feature you want currently isn’t there (but could very likely still be added).
Constructive criticism is ALWAYS the better option to hastily emotional responses with limited information.

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Yah know I think this is genuinely a great upgrade to the wiki, very nice work
The one problem I have is the decrease in usability on PCs with there not being a more horizontal layout available on browsers
I also do not like the vehicle categories auto scrolling on mobile, it keeps making me click the wrong thing

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not always correct though

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Could you please clarify if we have to mention vehicles in-game or if it can be about vehicles not yet in-game?

So, I can now click on the ratings, however, the shaded bar can cover up some of the options if the bar is big enough. Eg, I cannot click on 1, 2 or 3 in this instance as the shaded bar is covering them. 4 and 5 are still clickable because they are not covered by the shaded bar:
I had all ad/popup blockers disabled for the wiki too fwiw.
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However, turning on a popup blocker and manually blocking the shaded bar specifically allows all 5 of the button options to be clickable:
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Popup blocker’s Filter that allowed all buttons to be clickable:

http://wiki.warthunder.com##.color-3.game-unit_score-line

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EDIT: Changing to light mode DOES allow me to click all of the buttons. I also notice that the shaded bar does an animation and hides itself to the left when clicking on the star icon, while using light mode. This animation does not happen on dark mode:

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More than that there should be some requirement to have played other comparable vehicles of other nations. I’m worried about players review bombing their own nation’s vehicles when they haven’t even played any other ones. Like I’d give it a week before the M1s are rated as 1/5 on armour…

It basically uses less than a third of the screen area to show its information (and god help those with a super wide screen monitor)!
The design is so bad that I’m pretty much speechless.

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Dark mode blocks ranking for some reason, switch to light mode
@Stona_WT

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This is likely due to monitor resolution, i’m guessing you have similar issues on other websites?

I have no words. Have you actually tried it?

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I do have to wonder what the “balance” rating is supposed to mean. The rest are self explanatory performance characteristics, but balance can mean many things. Like is a 5 very balanced or OP?

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Yes, and switching from my 2560x1440 monitor to my second 1920x1080 monitor makes the different elements take upp more screen space. It’s a known problem for many websites that they don’t scale with higher resolutions.

No, it’s not a screen size issue. It’s a website coding issue. ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶e̶b̶s̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶v̶s̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶e̶n̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶a̶d̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶s̶e̶l̶f̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶l̶y̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶v̶i̶c̶e̶s̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶o̶l̶u̶t̶i̶o̶n̶.̶
EDIT: the site is auto adjusting, the issue is the small max/default width set in the code.

SO, it looks like the new wiki “does” adjust itself when you make the browser window small enough, HOWEVER, they have the default set to a VERY TINY width. Ie, for mobile. HOWEVER, when a site is designed properly you do NOT set your defaults to the width of a cell phone, the HTML/CSS will automatically adjust down to the size of the device’s screen, even without a dedicated Mobile site. (Having both auto adjusting for the desktop site, and a dedicated mobile site is best of everything. SOME old/small/outdated devices cannot properly display a mobile page [even if it is a cell phone], but will still work with the default “desktop” site, and automatically fit to the device’s screen resolution.)

The devs simply need to increase the default width back to at least what the old wiki was using:
Old Page for T-80BVM
New Page for T-80BVM
Screenshots taken on a 2560x1440 screen (“2k” resolution)
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New:

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