Introducing War Thunder Wiki 3.0!

[Necronomica]

Personal opinion here:
I like your content and how its written and there really should be a section for that type of content in some capacity somewhere.
BUT honestly, strictly speaking a wiki isn’t intended for subjective opinions and that is mostly what your post is (Compare to Wikipedia, I doubt you’ll find sny opinions baked into the pages there).

That being said, a opinion based section (although not on the wiki) could be linked to in the wiki itself. So for example a wiki-moderated forum section in the style of how they handle game suggestions currently could be better suited for that type of content, and then that content is then linked to in the wiki in a general sense of “For opinions and gameplay guides from players look for the vehicle in this section on the forum [🔗 LINK 🔗]”

What I think the intention with the wiki articles is is subjective comparative content (with perhaps minor opinions thrown in) in the form of “This vehicles armament is X and uses Y amunition which shoots faster shells and has a better penetration/post penetration effect than many other vehicles in its BR” and/or “the engine has a HP of X which in the BR range is on the lower end of the spectrum compared to its counterparts, thus a “sniper” play style is preferred to maximize the vehicles efficiency”

I don’t know if this is the best approach but this is at least my opinion and how I understand things to currently work with the new wiki. But I’m not entirely sure as I don’t have access to behind the scenes Information in that area.

[T3ddy4]

Yours has even been looked at yet? When did you post it?

[HGGreitZ]

Great job with the new Wiki 3.0
And please former creators and content contributors, write your article and descriptions back into the new Wiki3.0.

A great function is comparing vehicles.
Unfortunately, I couldn’t compare the tanks’ ammunition penetration values.
This is important and is definitely missing.
Keep up the good work.

[Rinhord]

Its blocked be the wiki mods, therefore it never got published

[Rinhord]

A game wiki is a wiki where u find everythink about the game…
Also including playstyles, pros and cons and unique stuff.

An easy example, darksouls weapons in the ds wiki.

You have the location where to find ans how to obtain, you will have the effectiveness in pvp and pve, you will have the bare stats on every enhancement, ypu will have the moveset and the unique moveset if excist, the weapon reach and at the end a bit of story if there is one.

And as u can not do it without, some opinion is always in a post, especially on the “how to use”, “pros and cons” and “pve, pvp” section.

U can like the magic spells in elden ring, but u can also hate it being boring, thats an opinion and u can only try to descripe the weopn/spell and descripe situations soe the reader can imagine how it works. But situations vary from person to person so its always an opinion.

If i say i can work good with the t20, i also need zo say its hars to play eithout knowledge, so i exolained why i think so to make the reader aware what he should expect.

My goal was to test if we can have pure informative posts, as we have a follow function, i wanted to see if people that play like me can creqte post that i follow then to see what they thing of smt and in case i need it, to inform myself how they think of smt before i grind it.

Why havign a “create post” “add comment” “follow author” function if we can not do that?

Also if the people dont create opinions or writing real stats and playstyles in the wiki, then who will do it? Gaijin? Lol…there is nothing in the wiki about the strenght, weaknesses, no mec control, o ammo priorisation, no armor analys, no analys generall.

If i want to know how a vehiclr works, the current wiki gives me 0% more information then the ingame stat card and that is absolutely not what a wiki is supposed to do.

So yes i get the point but i also dont. Why adding mechanics to it that u can not use? (Like creating post, doing comments and following authors u like) Why do i need to watch yt videos instead and do a lot of testing to find out how a vehicle performs, what it strenghts are and so on… ?

[T3ddy4]

As in when did you create it?

[Rinhord]

I am not sure if i can follow u.

[T3ddy4]

When did you write the article in the first place? I wrote one the day after the new wiki came out and it hasnt been reviewed yet, i was just wondering how long it takes them to get through posts.

[Rinhord]

Ah i get you, not sure 100% but a day after the announcement and then again 2 days ago.

You need to go to the “wiki support” to check if your post has been reviewed. In the overview it will not tell you.

your tickets ->“New | War Thunder Wiki”

for me it took them around 2-3 days to answer and ofc block it.

[T3ddy4]

Ah right so similar time then, I’ve known where to look and been checking on it, it just hasnt been reviewed yet.

[WieseAufmWald]

You still have alot more experience in a vehicle in 1000 games than in 10. And equivalent vehicles like the 50 shades of Leopard 2 and other copy paste could just go towards a unified score on them.

Also depends on what you call equivalent, small differences can shake up gameplay considerably.

[bbbdddaaa]

Get the old wiki design back!

I’ve just seen the new design of the wiki and I think it’s ugly af. I loved the old look because it is just like wikipedia.com and easy to look up the informations you need. In the old one you also had the opportunity to look for a good photo of a tank, but that was totally removed now. Even the only photo of a plane or tank are embedded so you have to look in the sites HTML code to see the photo in full size. I don’t know what you guys think, but my opinion is clear; Get the old design back!

Please bring the old wiki back gaijin

@Stona_WT

Compare Vehicles

See how vehicles stack up to each other with the all-new Compare feature! A nicely laid out page compares color-coded stats for each vehicle, making it much easier to visualize.

Not that important, back in the good old days on the old wiki i could just open two tabs

@Stona_WT

Advanced Search Function

With thousands of vehicles in the game, finding exactly what you want can take a while. That’s why we’ve introduced a brand-new, advanced search function. You can now search by nation, vehicle role, rank, Battle rating, Status, Vehicle Collections, as well as Vehicle Families.

Old search bar was better. Only thing that needed to change was to make it case insensitive.

@Stona_WT

Upgrades To Vehicle Pages

Vehicle pages have been given a makeover and upgrade. The head section better visualizes all important information about the vehicle from the get-go.

And usage in battles along, vehicle history, external links and tonnes more were removed. Does not upgrade it, just makes it hard to find info

@Stona_WT

Want to see what available camouflages there are for each vehicle? We’ve implemented a section with links to camouflages for each vehicle that’ll take you right to WT Live or the Gaijin Market.

You could simply press show in game and there would already be a bar showing you camos. We don’t need this.

@Stona_WT

Get Involved Using Vehicle Ratings

Rate each vehicle by its performance with the all-new rating by players function. Ratings are specific to vehicle types, for example aircraft feature flight performance, and ground vehicles armor, giving you a better understanding of how other players feel about each vehicle.

@Stona_WT

Get Involved Using Vehicle Ratings

Rate each vehicle by its performance with the all-new rating by players function. Ratings are specific to vehicle types, for example aircraft feature flight performance, and ground vehicles armor, giving you a better understanding of how other players feel about each vehicle.

Only barely good thing in 3.0 other than the dynamic banners on stuff like aviation and ground vehicles. Still not that important

@Stona_WT

Get Involved With Vehicle Articles

With Wiki 3.0, we’ve put strong emphasis on getting everyone involved with wiki content.

With the new format, everyone can head over to the wiki and write their own articles. Whether you want to write about history, vehicle guides, or just have something interesting to share about your favorite machines, you’re welcome to share your knowledge and writing skills with the community. After approval, everyone can read and rate your work!

I’m gonna admit, old wiki was annoying to edit at times however on the new wiki i have no idea even how to edit it, and the “new articles” thing is just a copy of the forums.

@Stona_WT

Creating Made Easier

The editor for the new wiki has been designed to be as simple as possible, so even if you have limited experience in this area you’ll be able to jump in and start creating with ease. With the editor you can format your text and insert tables, pictures and videos into your work quickly and easily.

This I can’t really comment on but i think the original one, though flawed would be better due to it’s similarities with wikipedia.

In conclusion, just bring back the old wiki or at least make it possible to edit.

[Bruce_R1]

It’s still up at New formuls for calculating of the armour piercing — War Thunder Wiki

I agree it needs to be ported over to the new wiki. Was very useful. As mentioned elsewhere, the APCR part broke a while back, though, when they updated the way the game does deMarre for APCR without updating the wiki: Wiki APCR calculator fix. The top box still works for regular AP but the APCR calculator is not very accurate to game anymore.

Speaking of which, we know the old forum is going to die in June, you warned us in case we needed to scrape anything off. Could you tell us when the Old Wiki site is going to die, as well?

[SadLamer]

This thing is just awful!
How can any sane person think this is an improvement over the old wiki?!?

[Ghostmaxi]

Oh didnt see, thank you for the info.

[bbbdddaaa]

#Bringbacktheoldwiki
(Poll at the bottom in case you want to skip my ranting)

Why we should bring back the old wiki

1. The new wiki pratically has no useful upgrades except for dynamic banners on vehicle type pages and ratings of vehicles, both of which are not that important.(though to be fair the dynamic banners are pretty nice)
2. The old wiki had tonnes of useful content and functions, such as watchlisting, random page, and particularly usage in battles and historical info just to name a few. Stuff like these templates were also really nice to navigate.
3. The old wiki was much more easy to navigate simply because it had a search bar.
4. Editting on the old wiki was slightly flawed however at least we could edit it. The new wiki is completely unusable in terms of this aspects. It has been quite some days and I still have not found the edit button.
5. Aesthetically speaking the old wiki was much better. It looked professional and as a wikipedia editor myself I really liked how similar it was to wikipedia. Outside of vehicle pages, the new war thunder wiki looks more like social media. Just compare crew lock from the old wiki to the new wiki.
6. The old wiki, though inperfect, is really loved within the community.

Alternate solutions to switching back to the old wiki
Sadly, editting and the show in game functions have been removed. An alternate solution to completely ditching the new wiki and going back to the old one would be making the old wiki usable again, though I would still hope we completely go back to the old wiki.

Should we bring back the old wiki?

• Bring back the old wiki
• Keep the new wiki
• Keep the new wiki, allow editing on the old wiki

Extra links

Get the old wiki design back!

I’ve just seen the new design of the wiki and I think it’s ugly af. I loved the old look because it is just like wikipedia.com and easy to look up the informations you need. In the old one you also had the opportunity to look for a good photo of a tank, but that was totally removed now. Even the only photo of a plane or tank are embedded so you have to look in the sites HTML code to see the photo in full size. I don’t know what you guys think, but my opinion is clear; Get the old design back!

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/allow-us-to-edit-the-old-wiki/191411/3

Introducing War Thunder Wiki 3.0!

Please bring the old wiki back gaijin Not that important, back in the good old days on the old wiki i could just open two tabs Old search bar was better. Only thing that needed to change was to make it case insensitive. And usage in battles along, vehicle history, external links and tonnes more were removed. Does not upgrade it, just makes it hard to find info You could simply press show in game and there would already be a bar showing you camos. We don’t need this. Only barely good…

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1h0cme0/wiki_introducing_war_thunder_wiki_30/?rdt=50681
https://old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

[OliverXRed]

Another thing i can see that have not been ported (yet?), is the section for maps.

[Necronomica]

Old one is still accessible for some time to allow users to transfer their articles and use the information to write new ones (among other things):
https://old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

[Schindibee]

Please note also that the new Wiki is still Work In Progress, and the team is still busy tweaking things, transferring content from Old to New, adding functionalities, and at the same time reviewing and releasing new content that players currently submit in large quantities.

So no need to go “Woe woe, all is lost, old wiki was much better and new one lost so much!” just yet… = )

[Cpt_Frakk]

Thank you. Sadly the google search not found the old one, just the work in progress new one. That caused misunderstanding. I delete my comment.