Introducing War Thunder Wiki 3.0!

[WieseAufmWald]

You still have alot more experience in a vehicle in 1000 games than in 10. And equivalent vehicles like the 50 shades of Leopard 2 and other copy paste could just go towards a unified score on them.

Also depends on what you call equivalent, small differences can shake up gameplay considerably.

[bbbdddaaa]

Get the old wiki design back!

I’ve just seen the new design of the wiki and I think it’s ugly af. I loved the old look because it is just like wikipedia.com and easy to look up the informations you need. In the old one you also had the opportunity to look for a good photo of a tank, but that was totally removed now. Even the only photo of a plane or tank are embedded so you have to look in the sites HTML code to see the photo in full size. I don’t know what you guys think, but my opinion is clear; Get the old design back!

Please bring the old wiki back gaijin

@Stona_WT

Compare Vehicles

See how vehicles stack up to each other with the all-new Compare feature! A nicely laid out page compares color-coded stats for each vehicle, making it much easier to visualize.

Not that important, back in the good old days on the old wiki i could just open two tabs

@Stona_WT

Advanced Search Function

With thousands of vehicles in the game, finding exactly what you want can take a while. That’s why we’ve introduced a brand-new, advanced search function. You can now search by nation, vehicle role, rank, Battle rating, Status, Vehicle Collections, as well as Vehicle Families.

Old search bar was better. Only thing that needed to change was to make it case insensitive.

@Stona_WT

Upgrades To Vehicle Pages

Vehicle pages have been given a makeover and upgrade. The head section better visualizes all important information about the vehicle from the get-go.

And usage in battles along, vehicle history, external links and tonnes more were removed. Does not upgrade it, just makes it hard to find info

@Stona_WT

Want to see what available camouflages there are for each vehicle? We’ve implemented a section with links to camouflages for each vehicle that’ll take you right to WT Live or the Gaijin Market.

You could simply press show in game and there would already be a bar showing you camos. We don’t need this.

@Stona_WT

Get Involved Using Vehicle Ratings

Rate each vehicle by its performance with the all-new rating by players function. Ratings are specific to vehicle types, for example aircraft feature flight performance, and ground vehicles armor, giving you a better understanding of how other players feel about each vehicle.

@Stona_WT

Get Involved Using Vehicle Ratings

Rate each vehicle by its performance with the all-new rating by players function. Ratings are specific to vehicle types, for example aircraft feature flight performance, and ground vehicles armor, giving you a better understanding of how other players feel about each vehicle.

Only barely good thing in 3.0 other than the dynamic banners on stuff like aviation and ground vehicles. Still not that important

@Stona_WT

Get Involved With Vehicle Articles

With Wiki 3.0, we’ve put strong emphasis on getting everyone involved with wiki content.

With the new format, everyone can head over to the wiki and write their own articles. Whether you want to write about history, vehicle guides, or just have something interesting to share about your favorite machines, you’re welcome to share your knowledge and writing skills with the community. After approval, everyone can read and rate your work!

I’m gonna admit, old wiki was annoying to edit at times however on the new wiki i have no idea even how to edit it, and the “new articles” thing is just a copy of the forums.

@Stona_WT

Creating Made Easier

The editor for the new wiki has been designed to be as simple as possible, so even if you have limited experience in this area you’ll be able to jump in and start creating with ease. With the editor you can format your text and insert tables, pictures and videos into your work quickly and easily.

This I can’t really comment on but i think the original one, though flawed would be better due to it’s similarities with wikipedia.

In conclusion, just bring back the old wiki or at least make it possible to edit.

[Bruce_R1]

It’s still up at New formuls for calculating of the armour piercing — War Thunder Wiki

I agree it needs to be ported over to the new wiki. Was very useful. As mentioned elsewhere, the APCR part broke a while back, though, when they updated the way the game does deMarre for APCR without updating the wiki: Wiki APCR calculator fix. The top box still works for regular AP but the APCR calculator is not very accurate to game anymore.

Speaking of which, we know the old forum is going to die in June, you warned us in case we needed to scrape anything off. Could you tell us when the Old Wiki site is going to die, as well?

[SadLamer]

This thing is just awful!
How can any sane person think this is an improvement over the old wiki?!?

[Ghostmaxi]

Oh didnt see, thank you for the info.

[bbbdddaaa]

#Bringbacktheoldwiki
(Poll at the bottom in case you want to skip my ranting)

Why we should bring back the old wiki

1. The new wiki pratically has no useful upgrades except for dynamic banners on vehicle type pages and ratings of vehicles, both of which are not that important.(though to be fair the dynamic banners are pretty nice)
2. The old wiki had tonnes of useful content and functions, such as watchlisting, random page, and particularly usage in battles and historical info just to name a few. Stuff like these templates were also really nice to navigate.
3. The old wiki was much more easy to navigate simply because it had a search bar.
4. Editting on the old wiki was slightly flawed however at least we could edit it. The new wiki is completely unusable in terms of this aspects. It has been quite some days and I still have not found the edit button.
5. Aesthetically speaking the old wiki was much better. It looked professional and as a wikipedia editor myself I really liked how similar it was to wikipedia. Outside of vehicle pages, the new war thunder wiki looks more like social media. Just compare crew lock from the old wiki to the new wiki.
6. The old wiki, though inperfect, is really loved within the community.

Alternate solutions to switching back to the old wiki
Sadly, editting and the show in game functions have been removed. An alternate solution to completely ditching the new wiki and going back to the old one would be making the old wiki usable again, though I would still hope we completely go back to the old wiki.

Should we bring back the old wiki?

• Bring back the old wiki
• Keep the new wiki
• Keep the new wiki, allow editing on the old wiki

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Get the old wiki design back!

I’ve just seen the new design of the wiki and I think it’s ugly af. I loved the old look because it is just like wikipedia.com and easy to look up the informations you need. In the old one you also had the opportunity to look for a good photo of a tank, but that was totally removed now. Even the only photo of a plane or tank are embedded so you have to look in the sites HTML code to see the photo in full size. I don’t know what you guys think, but my opinion is clear; Get the old design back!

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/allow-us-to-edit-the-old-wiki/191411/3

Introducing War Thunder Wiki 3.0!

Please bring the old wiki back gaijin Not that important, back in the good old days on the old wiki i could just open two tabs Old search bar was better. Only thing that needed to change was to make it case insensitive. And usage in battles along, vehicle history, external links and tonnes more were removed. Does not upgrade it, just makes it hard to find info You could simply press show in game and there would already be a bar showing you camos. We don’t need this. Only barely good…

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1h0cme0/wiki_introducing_war_thunder_wiki_30/?rdt=50681
https://old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

[OliverXRed]

Another thing i can see that have not been ported (yet?), is the section for maps.

[Necronomica]

Old one is still accessible for some time to allow users to transfer their articles and use the information to write new ones (among other things):
https://old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

[Schindibee]

Please note also that the new Wiki is still Work In Progress, and the team is still busy tweaking things, transferring content from Old to New, adding functionalities, and at the same time reviewing and releasing new content that players currently submit in large quantities.

So no need to go “Woe woe, all is lost, old wiki was much better and new one lost so much!” just yet… = )

[Cpt_Frakk]

Thank you. Sadly the google search not found the old one, just the work in progress new one. That caused misunderstanding. I delete my comment.

[Necronomica]

No problem :) You are not alone in having missed that detail :)

[bbbdddaaa]

I don’t think i am overreactting.
The new wiki is sort of unnessecary, the old wiki had everything that was needed and was aesthetically better.
However if they add the search bar to the new wiki I might change my mind and start using the new wiki.
But still the old wiki is better even if the search bar is added to the new wiki.

[Schindibee]

@bbbdddaaa

I don’t think i am overreactting.

As I said, the work on it (including Global Search) is just not finished yet, so I personally find any strong reaction not overreacting, but simply a bit premature.

I for my part like the new wiki, but also eagerly await further improvements (especially when it comes to completeness of stats cards), features, and completion of transfer of articles.

[bbbdddaaa]

Not sure if im the only one pointing this out but not a big fan of the new “player made article” format
Looks completely unprofessional unlike the old article format
If i wanted to read from stuff that looks like social media posts i have the war thunder forums and youtube for that. The new wiki is not an encyclopedia, it is unorganized mess of info.

[RunaDacino]

My concerns are borne of Rinhord’s experiences. They tried writing an informative, concise article and were rebuffed as it was not long and wordy enough.

While I do not yet feel confident talking about my planes (the F4U-4, Ki-43, A6M3, P-51) authoritively, I could still imagine writing articles on par with Rinhord’s about basic experiences flying those aircraft with full-real controls would come very useful to people in my position a mere few months ago - looking for their learner aircraft and are curious about cockpit visibility, trim settings, MEC settings and weird little quirks to look out for.

This being Rinhord’s experiences: Introducing War Thunder Wiki 3.0! - #181 by Rinhord

Based on this, the kind of “Hey, you should look out for these quirks and these are screenshots of the cockpit/canopy because you cannot test-flight TT vehicles without unlocking them” I’m thinking and would’ve loved months ago would be rejected.

[bbbdddaaa]

@RunaDacino

They tried writing an informative, concise article and were rebuffed as it was not long and wordy enough.

The new article method is completely wrong. It feels more like google map reviews than an encyclopedia. Does not feel professional and the location of the info is pratically a mess.

[山_田_凉]

@Schindibee

Please note also that the new Wiki is still Work In Progress, and the team is still busy tweaking things, transferring content from Old to New, adding functionalities, and at the same time reviewing and releasing new content that players currently submit in large quantities.

So no need to go “Woe woe, all is lost, old wiki was much better and new one lost so much!” just yet… =)

The new wiki should not have been released, and simultaneously become the officially supported main wiki, if it has come so unfinished. You can’t really blame the players for this one, the old wiki was just so much better.

[SadLamer]

@山_田_凉

The old wiki was IS just so much better.

[Tigerbread]

Why was the ammunition storage areas removed from the wiki for ground vehicles? It was a really useful feature however without it, the only way to work out the ideal amount of ammo to take so that it is not stored in exposed areas is to use trial and error in the test drive

[WieseAufmWald]

@bbbdddaaa

Not that important, back in the good old days on the old wiki i could just open two tabs

who needs QoL changes huh?

@bbbdddaaa

And usage in battles along, vehicle history, external links

usage in battle was just some dude writing it and often plain wrong or at the very least, terrible. Sometimes even contradicting itself.

vehicle history and external links are still there, in its own articles.

@bbbdddaaa

You could simply press show in game and there would already be a bar showing you camos. We don’t need this.

again, allergic to QoL changes? now you don’t have to start up the game. especially if you’re looking at the wiki on your phone.

@bbbdddaaa

I’m gonna admit, old wiki was annoying to edit at times however on the new wiki i have no idea even how to edit it

I think thats the point, you cant edit the vehicle stats etc so there’s no misinformation. what you can write about vehicles is in articles that get checked before they are released.

your post kinda just screams “i hate change, give me the thing i’m already used to back”. down to the boomer mindset and unironically typing “back in the good old days”, disgusting. tzeentch would be disappointed in you.