Anyway I feel like end of the day, the players who can find sources and documents of vehicles are the ones running this game and getting things fixed/implemented and doing a better job than the so-called research team (if there’s any) at Gaijin.
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I’m just incredibly confused as to how ANY of this makes sense.
You won’t add the VT4 to the Thai tree because it offends the Chinese community and players that an exported vehicle is getting exported to a different tree. They are mad that they themselves don’t get enough unique domestic designs and that this ruins it for them.
So your solution is to add Singapore, a very heavily NATO-equipped nation, to China?
I just want to point out the hypocrisy here. The US has had to deal with having their vehicles exported out to other nations for Years. Including their best vehicles. When is the last time the US had a completely unique “new” tech tree vehicle? The F-14A? And what about before that? The F-4 was widely exported, as was the F-5, the F-8 went to France as well.
Or we can choose to focus on ground. Is it fair for every nation to get a Leo 2A4/2A5/2A6/2A7? Even though that really is Germany’s only claim to being a nation worth grinding? If I recall correctly, many, many German players were upset about that. What about the fact that Germany has to share the Leo 1s, too? Or how about the US having to share its M60s? M4s? M44s? M55s? M10s? M36s? M48s? M163s? The US really only gets unique MBTs starting at the Abrams Pre-Prototypes (XM-803) and the Abrams series. Almost everything beforehand has a similar model in foreign trees as well. I mean, the solution to every BP lately has been “well copy and paste an American vehicle into another tech tree and call it a premium”.
I have never been a fan of Copy Paste. I was against the original addition of China as a full nation for this reason. Lo and Behold, years later, my concerns still hold true.
Either add the Chinese export vehicles to other nations, or remove every foreign export vehicle from every tech tree in the Game. Please stop with this ‘half and half’ solution that appeases nobody.
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…Last air event with F-106? Like a month ago?
Sorry, I should correct myself. New Tech Tree, non-event vehicle. I will correct that now.
ON a side note, I’m still frustrated that it was an event vehicle and not TT, but that is a conversation for a different place.
He means TT
He has a fair point. I didn’t specify. This game is a measure of specifics- what was said is fine, and I have since corrected.
Glad to see devs and community managers in here addressing concerns, providing additional clarification or more information. Especially when they are adamant against going to Steam and using that lever. At least we know that lever works though. Its interesting because even moderators seem absent for the most part.
The F-106 isn’t a unique vehicle. The thing was in service for like 40 years. It should have just come to the TT. Unique would be like a South Korean K1A1.
So, are they gonna add the VT-4 to Japan or not? I can’t really get anything out of the OP
Also, if they won’t add the VT-4 to Japan, why are they listening to the Chinese community about this case after not listening to the British community about the Bhishma and later on the Indian tree?
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Multiple problems can be criticised at once.
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That is 100% not what I mean by a Unique Vehicle. The F-106 is unique in the sense that no other nation has it. That was my definition of Unique.
I don’t agree with the guy that the 106 counts as Tech Tree, but they are very correct in suggesting that it is unique.
They won’t confirm or deny whether it is coming or not.
Ehh, the 106 we got really was tailor-made for an event vehicle thanks to the experimental HMD it got. That was a one-off, and I’d rather see two actual production models hit the TT, one with the gun and one without.
But, the reality of being a major weapons manufacturer (like USA) and basically without restrictions on exports (unlike say… japan) is that your vehicles will be bought and used by many countries.
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definition of unique vehicle isn’t built once
So they really are just fence sitting right now lol
This is true; but I am arguing why it is OK for the US to have all its export vehicles in foreign nations, but somehow for China it isn’t… a very poor double standard by Gaijin’s part.
I have no problem with the US stuff being exported so long as every other tree receives the same treatment for their export items; but the moment that a tree receives a special exception (for no good reason, by the way), I am going to say something. Because again. It is frustrating.
That’s very fair, I have always agreed that Thailand’s VT-4 should be added. They have more of those than Oplot-Ts.
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That’s probably why this whole ruckus started in the first place.
The bug reports that may buff Chinese vehicles almost never work, even if enough info from approved sources is provided, and reports that makes Chinese vehicles weaker are almost always approved, even if not enough info is provided.
However the screenshot is unlike anything I’ve seen before, to change a correct model into an inaccurate one just so it could be consistent with other inaccurate models is just unheard of.
Imagine this: every single blow off panel were removed from the game just because Gaijin thought (with no proof ) a hatch shouldn’t be able to stop the crew from getting fried. And then one day the community gets word that the M1A2T is gonna be introduced into the Chinese TT, and you find out they have the only blow off panel that does work, and no M1A3 SEPv3 was gonna be added to the US TT.
That is the closest equivalent scenario I can come up with, and in that case I’m sure the outcry will be just as severe.
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I mean, they always do and will.
As if they denied the VT-4? They probably didn’t add it this update because it’d be a sensitive time or they want to get more information on it in Thai service.
They were going to add it and then they didn’t. That’s a pretty hard denial for now. IF they change their mind; so be it. But until it is in the tech tree on a live server, the assumption is that it has been denied.
This whole “sensitive” stuff just feels like it doesn’t hold, given that the Oplot is in the TT on the live server and the placement and statistics of the Oplot have been debated for years