It really isn’t, some of their modern aircraft look superficially similar but their ground doctrine couldn’t be more different. And as for their naval capabilities? Theyre clearly using the us as an example and trying to build from there.
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This is true, but that’s no reason to deny Thailand of their most numerous modern MBT. Other trees also have huge issues that have been ignored for years.
You mean the Thai M60. And it’s still wrong in some respects.
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Just to add on to this, when people point out other issues it’s not to take away from problems the Chinese tree has, but to point out to Gaijin the larger issues that caused it.
A big problem that very strongly affects Chinese vehicles for example is Gaijins bug report system. Here it demands concrete values that for many modern vehicles simply don’t exist, and nations with good OPSEC suffer from it.
A solution to this problem might be to move from a rigid source requirement to a system that works based on the best available sources. Meaning of no primary sources exist, secondary sources take their place and so on. Gaijin could still reject sources if they have better sources already, but this would allow for a lot of issues to be fixed across the game.
I’m also strongly against anonymizing the report forum. Before it was easy to contact a report moderator with issues and questions, this is now impossible. All this does is harm those that do their best to improve the game, and hide those that don’t from responsibility.
At the very least give them anonymized accounts that can be told apart from eachother (something like fixed numbers for each), and allow a direct message system through the report site. This could still protect their identity, but also make communication far easier and put some weight to their actions again.
Both actually suffer from the same issues, as they are the same model in reality. They should not be simple copies of the US tank, as neither had the modifications to fit ERA. This means they should get their turret model updated with stowage and handrails and the smoke launchers move closer inwards.
ROC M60A3 TTS
Thai M60A3 TTS
Both are also missing their current service round, which is M426 for the Thai tank and DM63 (German licensed M426) for the ROC tank. Neither used DM33 from what I could find. Though this is likely just a BR balancing decision.
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The other guy referred to it as the “Japan M60”. But it’s not japanese.
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you are right but they are considered a western ally far more west than east as far as i can tell they are a western bloc ally which is weird for it to have a Eastern vehicle which is sometimes weird because countrys like germany which where on both sides which is why there acceptions but japan is not one of them
France/UK will be fine
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Thailand already has a place in game, there is no demand from Thai players to change it. From a gameplay standpoint there is also no issue here as the UK already has multiple other subtrees (South Africa, India, and to a limited extent other commonwealth nations) and so does France (Belgium and the Netherlands), with both even having alternatives for future subtrees if needed.
There is no reason to change the placement of this subtree.
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Well said.
It becomes a lot more obvious its about nationalism more than the actual game when you notice a lot of these players that are crying about the Thai VT4 don’t even play China to begin with. Some of them have no games played in any tier Chinese vehicle.
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somebody be like:
when Thailand in Japan:vt4 is Thailand ,just Thailand in Japan
when Singapore in China(it hasn’t happened yet):i don’t want see EU or USA car in China
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gnahsuom when a single chinese export tank in japan/thai tt: “this is an insult to my nation my familiy and my ancestors!!!”
gnahsuom when china gets every single western modern mbt, f15, f16 f35 and ruin the entire chinese tree at the same time: “ah yes the people are hypocrites the situation is clearly identical”.
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Copy paste nation😹
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gaijin:singapore maybe in China
half chinese:no,we don’t need singapore
the other half chinese:better but don’t care
some white friends:I don’t want EU or USA car in China
some chinese on the forum:we don’t care singapore,that’s gaijin idea
white friends:no,it’s chinese idea
gaijin:thanks nobody care me
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I agree this is a stupid argument. As soon as these vehicles were sold their manufacturers lost their right to decide this. Only Singapore matters.
In the Thai case, they did not take issue with it, so the placement is good. In the Singaporean case we will have to see the reaction of Singaporean players.
Most I have talked to didn’t want Singapore added to China, generally asking to be placed with Israel instead for the stronger military connection.
I just hope Gaijins decision will actually be based on Singaporean feedback, not lazy unwillingness to fix Chinese domestic vehicles.
If it is the Singaporean opinion I will agree with any placement.
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Anyway, since someone has set this bad precedent, if in the future anyone objects to Ukrainian or Estonian, Latvian, and Polish vehicles being included in the Soviet Union, everyone can ask why vehicles from these countries cannot join the Soviet Union. Everyone knows how good the relationship between Poland and the Soviet Union used to be, as well as the three Baltic states. Since most Americans have no objection to free combinations, let’s add a Polish subtree to the Soviet tech tree. Everyone can’t wait to experience the Soviet Union’s Polish Abrams.
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This is the worst part honestly. Maybe we should stop treating national communities like an “enemy faction” and instead work together. All of us just want a fair and fun game.
This goes both ways too, there is people on both sides arguing in bad faith.
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I thought of a hell of a joke about PL,PL’s ww2 cars in Germany,PL’s cw cars in USSR
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you will get m1 as taiwan just got theirs, as for the rest lets hope gaijin isnt so dumb.
you are right,bug I’ve tried to explain,clearly not working.I just want to say it is gaijin wrong
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