Exactly, every TT has their issues, but the Chinese can’t speak for everyone. In order to fix everything we need everyone to speak for all issues, not just complain about their own issues.
We, the playerbase, is all the snail has, without us the snail is nothing.
Even a year? I have bugs that are 7-8 years old. All of them were accepted, none of them actioned.
They do this for everyone though, it’s not just a Chinese issue. Really the system should be improved.
Why promise if you cannot implement？
Many discussions, especially on military gaming forums, cannot take place in a respectful and constructive manner unless there is a basic level of respect for Chinese players and the sensitivities they hold. On such platforms, two topics frequently arise:
It is important to note that many countries, including the United States and Japan, when establishing diplomatic relations with the People’s Republic of China, have all adhered to the One-China Principle. This principle is clearly reflected in key international documents, such as:
United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758
The Sino-American Joint Communiqué (1979)
The Sino-Japanese Joint Statement (1972)
Despite this clear international consensus, there are still individuals or groups who attempt to portray Taiwan as an "independent country."Such views not only go against the universally recognized stance of the international community, but also ignore the historical and legal fact that Taiwan is an inalienable part of China.
台湾问题与新时代中国统一事业_白皮书_中国政府网
China and Japan are close neighbors separated only by a narrow strip of water, and the relationship between the two nations has a long and complex history. Since the normalization of diplomatic ties, China-Japan relations have generally continued to develop, with increasing friendly exchanges and pragmatic cooperation across various fields. These efforts have brought tangible benefits to the peoples of both countries and have contributed to regional and global peace, stability, and prosperity.However, the relationship has also experienced significant ups and downs, and certain issues and challenges remain unresolved.
⚠️ Historical Issues: Problems in Historical Perception
One of the most sensitive and painful issues is Japan’s attitude toward its wartime aggression.
The Japanese government, particularly right-wing political and social forces, have shown signs of historical revisionism — downplaying or even denying atrocities such as the Nanjing Massacre, whitewashing the nature of the war of aggression, and attempting to mislead future generations through textbook distortions and visits to the Yasukuni Shrine, where Class-A war criminals are honored.
These actions have deeply hurt the feelings of the Chinese people and have undermined the political foundation of bilateral relations.
It was primarily due to the denial and distortion of wartime history by Japanese right-wing elements — their attempts to gloss over or beautify the atrocities of war — that led to justified outrage and protests from people with a sense of justice. Saying things like "It’s been 80 years, why can’t you just get over it?"is not acceptable. Time is not an excuse for forgetting.To this day, Japan has not offered a sincere apology to the Chinese people, nor has it provided proper compensation to the victims.Who will bring justice to the innocent lives lost in massacres? Who will console the spirits of the soldiers who fought and died resisting aggression?We remember history not to dwell in hatred, but to ensure a better future — one where such tragedies are never repeated.
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新华时评丨以大格局、大方向、大智慧推动中日关系行稳致远-新华网
That was not a promise. Biggest misconception by your community.
If I say “I have no plans to eat chicken nuggets soon/for now”, it doesn’t mean I will never eat chicken nuggets for the rest of my entire life.
I think this topic needs more posts like yours.
Political and National ideals should be left at the door before talking about a damn video game.
We are on neutral ground and if not then there is no point to discussing.
Do jewish players object to ww2 german vehicles? No
Do I object to french vehicles? No
Do i object to vehicles my country built and sold to other countries appearing in the game if it meant going into a tree my nation has historical butthurt with? also NO
Can players play victim when they are receiving back what an overwhelming amount if their nations community have dished out themselves? Couldn’t be much further than no
The independent nation of Taiwan’s geopolitical situation matters not to the digital space of the War Thunder forums or the gameplay of the video game War Thunder, nor does Japan’s conquest of Asia in the 1900s.
The moderator said [We don’t have any plans to adding CN vehicles to JP tech tree], if this is not a promise then what can be a promise?
a promise would be a direct statement that says “No chinese vehicles will appear in the Japanese tree”
They simply said they have no plans as of yet.
they may do in the future, they may not.
Your gross interpretation of the English language is showing bad faith discussion.
if you were treated like the British and french trees you would sure as hell know it
from your question earlier you dont understand english.
people like you are why so much of the playerbase doesnt like chinese players, bad faith arrogance
The Chinese text of the administrator’s reply in the screenshot is:
“我们没有给日本科技树添加中国载具的计划和想法。”
You can try to translate it. This text does not include a definition of whether this thing is possible in the future. In Chinese semantics, it is a complete denial. If the development team did not have plans to add it at the time, the Chinese text should be:
“我们暂时没有给日本科技树添加中国载具的计划和想法。”
They did not say NOW(现在) or CURRENTLY (目前), then we treat it as a permanent promise
A permanent promise would be “不会有” (can’t/won’t), not “没有” (don’t).
I can’t convince everyone end of the day, so if he has his own opinions its fine and I do respect it since it was a genuinely well done write up. However personally I’d still rather put Israel way on top of the priority list since they do need a subtree desperately and while SG offers mostly copy paste it still expands their line up and in a vacuum, it does also give Israel more choices to play with.
Ofc we also have to prioritise what the Chinese players think and if they do not want SG to CN then it aligns with what I’ve been saying the whole time.
Cc @Reimeru
This is correct.
I think i see the issue. translations into simplified chinese neglect to include nuance and the chinese players already having their lingerie in a twist failed to understand how gaijins corporate speak works.
Both sentences mean the exact same thing in English. an English speaker wouldnt know that this isnt the case for simplified chinese either.
Well, yes and no. Yes because the assumption has always been that it is never a “no” until they confirmed and promised it, but no because in English terms, they also did not use the word “currently” which can affect the outcome of the wording too, so it could seem like a bit of a stab in the back when they’ve said something almost definitive.
As a Chinese speaker too, I have to say they didn’t promise that. No plan doesn’t mean no forever, that is true in both languages.
