Indonesian Sub-tree: Bhinneka Tunggal Ika!

the turret of the P8 was also recently fitted with a rocket pod, seems quite modular

not putting the image here just in case, you can check yourself on twitter though

they were planning on an MLRS SAM system for the tank as well, hopefully itll be revealed in June during IndoDefence

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found some footage of the Army’s Alvis Saladin (pre-retrofit w/ foliage camo) firing & maneuvering during an exercise in the 2000s.

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there are also other Alvis vehicles used in the exercise, such as the Stormer APC & AVLB as well as the FV Scorpion

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Humber MK.4 Modification?

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the standout thing is obviously the roof MG , is it a Vickers or a Browning? (honestly I cant visually tell the difference between the two)

but another interesting thing is it seems to be modified as the ammo for the MG also seems to lead to a new box on the front of the turret where the lamp+smoke shells would sit, the lamp is also moved to the right-hand side of the turret and the smoke shells seems to be removed,

there are also some inscriptions written on the tank itself, “Bung Karno –” something something and the bottom text is completely illegible to me

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Jakarta, 17 oktober 1952 | KERIS

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I’d say it’s a Vickers MG, because of the muzzle device and you could also barely see the fluted water jacket.

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Water cooled Browning’s do exist though you are correct that it’s a Vickers MG

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Indonesian Pandur/cobra 30mm sporting a new UN camouflage for the upcoming transfer to the INDOBATT in Lebanon for the UNIFIL mission there.

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PT Pindad will officially send 18 Pandur combat vehicles and 12 Anoa units as part of the rejuvenation of combat vehicles for Indonesia’s peacekeeping mission in Lebanon | KERIS

the Army seems reluctant to actually use it lmao. But it is a significant upgrade for our troops compared to the BTR-80As and Anoas that they have currently, so its definitely a positive

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Amazing paint job. Does the UT30 have the option for ATGMs as well?

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it does! However I dont think Indonesia uses that configuration unfortunately. In essence it’ll function similarly to the VBCI-2 we already have ingame, but with an additional Airburst round, since it uses the Orbital ATK bushmaster variant

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Whats Gaijin’s policy regarding UN camos? Would love to have em especially French ones which are ubiquitous in UN camo lol

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no idea honestly, but it does seem strange that no UN camouflage are in the game when they’re literally one of the easiest to create and implement since its basically just full-white camo with UN markings

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Theres another suggestion to add the Turkish TT, Indonesia could be a great subtree if its added

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honestly id rather see either Japan or Netherlands (France) get them since both have a bit more tangible and closer relations historically than any other nations.

France has been a key ally for us throughout the years since we’ve purchased (and will purchase) a shit ton of Defence equipment from them and the historical Netherlands link make sense, but France has a lot of domestic vehicles to be added, as well as the addition of BeNeLux, so vehicle wise they’re not really out of options.

Japan meanwhile is quite barren in comparison, and I just don’t see how Thai vehicles are adequate enough to complement the absolute state of that tech tree (no offense). With our historical ties its not too far fetched of an idea for us being grouped up with Japan either and there wouldn’t be too much opposition within the country as generally the former colonizers isn’t entirely hated.

I feel those two nations should get priority first. For Turkey it falls onto the same category as South Korea for me, where we’ve done Defence equipment collaborations, but that’s basically it ( I mean Aceh sultanate did have a somewhat close diplomatic relations with the Ottomans but that was literally over a century ago).

Don’t get me wrong our cooperation has been steadily increasing as of late, but is it currently as close as with the Netherlands or Japan back then? most likely not. In the future it might, and I hope we are that close in the future, but currently those two I mentioned before are the most compatible one I’d say

TLDR personally i would put the ordering as such

Netherlands(France)/Japan > France > Turkey/SK > other nations

but this is just my personal opinion

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closer look of the GROM Poprad internals


I also stumbled upon this range rover with MPATS/MPADS mount, no clue what the missile is though


Indonesian Army Defile, 1984

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LRAC F1?
LRAC 89 TNI AD: Anti-Tank Rockets Destroy Opponents’ Fortifications

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good shout! front grip looks identical

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89mm diameter, 400mm of flat HEAT pen, could be good, but looks like quite limited to forward-firing only

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I also found this image of UN’s Garuda Contingent II (to Zaire/Congo) Marine Corps with Gaz-69 mounted with what looks like a recoilless rifle, could also be interesting

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ALSO HUGE FIND, just found out we actually trialed the Austrian SK-105 Kürassier back in 1983 but chose the Scorpion 90 instead


Field test of the Austrian-made Steyr SK 105 tank at the Purabaya Cavalry School in August 1983.

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Top image: Night firing test of the SK 105 in 1983 at Ambal Kebumen

Bottom image: SK 105 Field test through a ricefield terrace in August 1983 in Kebumen

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(EDIT: added firing tests and offroad mobility test images)

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SSE was a private company there have a Invention copyright.
It must be put into service with the government first before gaijin can use it .
now it look like a Company private assets for me .

Just wanted to ask, if we ever get the Harimau, how many variants do you reckon we can get? We can for sure get at least 2 with 1 being the prototype and the other the production version.

hard to say really, but we can speculate

There is an intention to standardize the Harimau platform not just as a tank but as other variants as well

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this progress for Commonality is why the Indonesian Marines tested the Zaha (since its closely related to the Harimau)

FNSS Zaha drifting

we are currently building the APC version, from there we might install autocannons or ATGMs (similar to the Kaplan-10). But as things stand currently, its only the 105mm and APC

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