Not really 100% just 18% less instead of the 75% less than it currently have.
No. It probably should be the same mass. There is a slight unknown, but it is beleived the mass given for both the soviet cartridge and the BOL cartridge include the mass of the casing. BOL uses plastic, the soviet one is metal.
Its more than likely that the difference in mass is from that and the amount of actual chaff would be the same, and given the fact that all chaff in the game, no matter the nation, just uses the exact same analogue, the soviet chaff cartridge, then making BOL chaff just be a regular CM makes life simple and easy, otherwise they need to start modeling everyones chaff mass to be different.
and even then 18% =/= 75%
Did you read the bug report that youre quoting? It literally states that “An 18% degrease in total mass in no way justifies a 75% decrease in radar signature.”…
If youre going to use someone else as a reference at least keep your claims consisntent.
Yes, I am aware. There was a discussion elsewhere on the forums with the bug author about the casing weight and a guy who actually works in the factory iirc.
Unfortunately without a primary source to confirm that both weights given include the casing weight, it has to be reported as is, but it is nonetheless believed that it does include the casing weight and thus the difference in mass would be minimal.
Either way, being 1/4 of the strength of a regular chaff packet is totally unjustified
The F5 was a trainer jet. Not sure what went so wrong with the jag… it looks a good air frame design but feels like its powered with a lawn mower engine.
If it was up to me the id remove the 9.7 missiles, give it 10gs and put it at 9.3
The 10.7 to 10.0 as it is.
Lets hope they listen and do a little harrer buff.
Its a wierd business plan for sure.
Theres plenty of premium harriers which would obviously be bought way more if they were better…
Same with tornado. If it actually turned.like it was ment to IRL, give it AOA button or something, again more money spent on premiums and more fun for us all.
Same with having 2 identical phantoms. Remove the PD or whatever just put one of them to 11.3
I just mostly play china and US now. I dont have any of these complaints over there. Good jets, any BR you like really.
Found it
The Jag has a very long, confusing and rather funny history, suffice to say, it was never meant to do more than train pilots going from sub-sonic trainers to super-sonic trainers. F-5 was at least designed to train pilots to dogfight.
GR1 I think has the weakest missiles it ever used and with the issue of supersonics, even a pretty poor one like the Jag, shouldnt be lower BR anyway.
GR1A… I think 10.0 would be too low, it does have Flares and a lot of chaff, but should get a much better RWR and I think it would do fine at 10.3.
Also, dont judge ground attackers in ARB, none do well. In ASB, a gamemode where PvE exists, they are pretty decent and I enjoy them.
Yeah… Currently we are all praying they finish the Sea Harrier HUD, they started last major update and only did about half of it. and its tenatively worse off now that it was before they started with what is missing.
Did have an AOA button, did get reported, but Gaijin said no one else at the moment, which is a shame.
FM is also unfinished, it was a LOT worse, and they “fixed it” but “game limitaitons” prevented them from fully finishing it. but in the process took a hit to its max speed. Also missing combat thrust which would be a good boost to acceleration. Also the Tornado GR1 has the wrong engines. Everyone else has Mk103s.
I want the FG1 to drop to 11.7 and the FGR2 to remain at 12.0 but get AIm-9Ls. That would probably do. FGR2 can also get a few other A2G weapons like AJ168 Martels and AGM-12 Bullpups
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My opinion remains that India should not be unconditionally within the British Tech Tree past their independence.
The right step would be to rename the tree to Commonwealth or something and start adding even more SA and Indian stuff. Other CW states are welcome too.
It’s been proven that UK can’t sustain a tech tree on it’s own.
When and where?
What cannot be provided by Britain?
Air:
This is everything we can get:
But we already have apparently the most OP top tier fighter in game right now and as such it has to be artifically nerfed so that it isnt so completely dominating.
Ground:
Fix the CR2 and add the CR3.
As far as I am aware, neither India nor SA adds anything that britain needs for Ground
Naval:
its the royal navy, we dont need anything.
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I judge against whats available at same BR.
MIG 21 9.7. Radar/ heat missiles. Fast AF. Much better flight model. Even has fire bombs for bases
Jag 9.7. Better heats. Better gun. Thats it.
The first and last time i tried bombs on the jag… i nearly didnt even get airborne🤣
Perhaps, To be honest, 7.0 - 10.0 is a total mess right now, so I dont think anyones BRs are actually correct in that range.
I think the only way the GR1 could go to 9.3 is if it had no AAMs at all, and that would suck more, but it should probably also be lower than the Mig-21. Aim-9Gs on a supersonic (in theory) is already quite a bit more than msot have at that BR.
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Looks good in mid tiers until you reach higher tiers.
Even with US and FR copies it looks empty.
TT is bigger than just a few BRs.
It adds unique vehicles to fill out the tree instead of dozens CR variants that are effectively same vehicles in the game.
Not really.
If you want to play Harrier, Tonka, Typhon, Hawk, Jag, then play Britian, if you dont, then dont play Britain.
Such as?
I dont think they have a single vheicle that would be higher than 10.7.
and we have LOADS of British stuff missing.
Give me Scorpion, Warrior Verdi II, Ajax, Chieftian 900/2000, etc etc
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First off yhe CR3 isn’t build yet abd secondly. Why are you gate keeping the British tree. When it is proven the British tree lack any viable vehicled for their tree.
I’m not only talking about top tier.
Just look how many unique vehicles you got from SA around 8.0 - 10.0.
Neither is the 2S38 or Yak-141 and yet both are found in game. Heck KH-38MT was never ever built, just a mockup and yet its been dominating for an entire year.
CR3(P) exists today and could be added next major update. CR3 could be added whenever it was needed. But I would argue the CR2s would do just fine, if they were modeled correctly.
As for air, We dont even have a true representation of the Typhoon FGR4 yet, as its mostly placeholder or unfinished parts. I cant actually think of anything that is actually modeled correctly on it.
And what?
So I don’t want Rafale, Su30, mirage 2k, etc in the British TT is gatekeeping?
And what is Britain missing? What can we not get from Britain?
There is nothing that is provided by India or South Africa that cannot be obtained by a perfectly unique British vehicle nor do either nation have aircraft or tanks to augment the areas britain is weak, such as neither operate an MBT that can even match the CR2 in its nerfed state
All of which could be replaced by British equivalents that would be just as unique. Like As-90/abbot/Saxon instead of G6 for example
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no
I want to see these vehicles ingame, preferably all in one place. If that means an Indian whole tree, I’d love to get it, perhaps Israel style. If it comes in UK, I wouldn’t especially mind, but I see most people don’t want that.
I just want the coolest Flanker variants IMO.
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