I would like to raise a concern regarding the spawn mechanics of the F-84F in different tech trees.
Currently, I have noticed an inconsistency:
The American F-84F can spawn in the air (air spawn)
However, the French / German / Italian F-84F variants do not receive air spawn and spawn on the runway instead
Given that these aircraft are essentially the same platform with very similar performance characteristics, this difference feels inconsistent and impacts gameplay balance significantly.
🧩 Main issue:
The lack of air spawn for non-US F-84F variants results in:
Delayed engagement time compared to US counterpart
Reduced ability to contest altitude at match start
Increased vulnerability during takeoff phase
Overall less competitive performance in Air RB
📌 Observation:
From community discussions and previous reports, this seems to be related to rank placement differences rather than aircraft capability. However, from a gameplay perspective, the aircraft performance does not appear to justify different spawn conditions.
❓ Question:
Is this difference intended as part of the current balancing system (Rank-based spawn rules), or is it an oversight that could be reviewed for consistency?
If it is intended, could there be clarification on why identical or near-identical aircraft receive different spawn mechanics depending on tech tree placement?
💬 Suggestion:
For consistency and fairness, it might be worth considering:
Either standardizing air spawn across all F-84F variants
Or removing air spawn from all variants if balance is the concern
This would help ensure consistent gameplay experience across different nations using the same aircraft.
The bigger problem here is that the feedback system is not working if obvious issues such as these keep persisting despite multiple and sustained feedback regarding this issue.
Yep, I can think of at least 3 aircraft at incorrect BRs or Ranks that isn’t subjective but actually, genuinely wrong and I bring it up every time and it gets ignored, even DMs don’t work.
Yup, unless we start criticizing the feedback system and the feedback system itself gets overhauled, then we will keep having these issues. The F-84F having inconsistent air spawn across nations, or the same identical vehicles having different battle-ratings are simply just symptoms of the feedback system.
Yeah, it took what, a year? until the B-26C to get a consistant BR. The entire system for determining BR (and by extension rank where appropriate) needs a total overhaul. Its not just the feedback, its everything to do with determining BR, they also need to be a lot more transparent
and things like this:
we never had this post and everytime ive enquired. ive been ghosted
100% Claude-generated. Gaijin ignores forum feedback posts most of the time anyway, so why not use AI-generated responses to reduce the frustration players feel when their feedback goes unacknowledged by the official team.
It’s a rank issue, Gaijin removed attacker/ bomber air spawns based on rank, not BR or if they where actually one of the planes that was being used to abuse air spawns, because why actually take time to properly address the issue properly when you can just hammer an entire group of planes regardless of whether or not that are part of the problem!
Simply move the USA one to rank 6 or the others to 5 (USA one up would be better as people who bought the premium variants at ranks 6 would justifiably be upset if they lost the ability to grind a whole rank with it.).
