The plane is boogazooga, mid as mid can be; it’s fast, yeah, so is most 5.0+s. Is it maneuverable? (say roll, turn, yaw, overall nose authority and handling responsiveness) No, only at certain speeds around 700 IAS. Ahead of that margin you’re a brick, below that margin you’re a brick. It takes YEARS to accelerate to a reasonable speed, it barely climbs better than the j7w1; it gets WHOOPED IN A DOGFIGHT by most things even the do335 (which does everything better than the sea fury, has an airspawn DESPITE SEA FURY IS NAMED “FIGHTER-BOMBER 11”!
another issue is the gun placement in the middle of the wings makes gun convergence really annoying because you’re expected to use the guns far away to avoid any further engagement, but you find yourself needing to snapshot up close when someone is stalled out. Hispano mkV? Well it’s worse than mkII despite it’s higher fire rate and more amount of HEI shells, I don’t know why.
Is the Sea Fury actually overrated in real life? Is it just not really similar to the real life one? Or are the popular 4.7s-5.7’s severely overperforming? (overperform: to perform more than it should from a historical standpoint)
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You’re forgetting the rest of the statement qualifiers:
“The pinnacle of single engine piston fighters for the Royal Navy’s Fleet Air Arm”
Every piece of military equipment gets overhyped IRL
Generally Carrier based fighters perform worse in War Thunder than land based interceptors, the Sea Fury is just a Hawker Fury (a revised Tempest) with a lot of additional weight in frame strengthening and carrier equipment for… operating on Carriers.
I don’t think it’s peacetime settings, certainly there’s data out there for a Sea Fury F X running 14lbs/sq.in. boost vs FB 11s 9½ but it was likely downrated to extend the service life. We are talking late '40s post war Britain after all.
I never had much of an issue with the Sea Fury it’s just stuck in the weird place of being like a fat P-51D, it really sucks if you’re flying alone and absolutely excels at energy retention/drag and bag.
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honestly I just did a schrimpfle trick:
i put a japanese skin on it and see?
stacks!
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It is using 100/130 fuel engine seettings because it is what every manual says it used.
They should add a mark X with 150 octane or something and it would perform much better.
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/Fury/Sea_Fury_Hawker.pdf
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wow, VTE major and technical moderator, i’m proud of you Metra :)
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I really want more attention on the topic of British tier 4 props so there is more chance of something getting done.
The Sea Fury is running 9.5 lb of boost, even though it could probably be running 14 lb of boost, and even the Tempest Mk II from 1945 is running ~12 lb of boost with 150 octane fuel on it’s much earlier version of the Centaurus.
The core problem comes down to the fact that British props like the Sea Fury are being treated by a different standard than other nations, being deprived of their 150 octane fuel and forced to run at low-power settings due to the pilots notes while having to face absolute best-case aircraft of other nations, like P-51D-30 with 75 inches of manifold pressure and Bf 109 K-4 with 1.98 ata. These are not ahistorical power settings, just the best possible case for these planes, which ingame Griffon spits and Sea Fury are nowhere near.
Ingame already the Tempest Mk II has 2783 takeoff hp with 12 lb of boost on the Centaurus, so based on that, since power is proportional to manifold pressure, Sea Fury with 14 lb boost could have ~2900 hp as opposed to the ~2430 hp it currently gets.
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/Fury/Sea_Fury_Flight.pdf
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Something similar is affecting the bearcat and f7f. Historically they ran 145 octane, ingame they are running 130. That and the RAM air effect is all messed up on them
As pointed above we would need the F.10 version if we want a better performing sea fury.
Well that seems like it’s almost certainly never going to happen, since people have been asking for the F.10 basically since the FB 11 came out, suggestions were passed to the devs, and it was in the list of aircraft planned for Britain but never happened.
It seems like we’ll be stuck with a 4.7-performing “superprop” at 5.7 until whenever the game closes down. Or maybe it’ll win some more head-ons and they’ll move it to 6.0, who knows.
Having flown them for all of the original 5 nations plus Italy, I have to say that British Tier 4 props overall are in by far the worst condition of anything I’ve played so far, British Tier 4 prop’s reputation is singlehandedly held up by the infamous Spitfire LF Mk 9.
F8F runs 145 settings and has the highest possible engine setting.
F7F-3 only misses power on first stage in military (100%)
F7F-1 uses 130 fuel settings of 1945 or so
Developer implemented a new mechanic that allows a boost in WEP critical alt performance, it is already in the dev server.
With this change they are as accurate as they will get and my 2.5 yo report would be fixed :)
As mentioned most aircraft are running absolutely max boost settings while Britain gets gimped for the large part.
That said even in its not full power state the Sea Fury (in Sim at least) can be an absolute monster as long as you keep it fast. It climbs fairly well, dives like an absolute demon and holds its speed superbly well. The trick is never lose speed, use big wide sweeping turns and don’t forget that running is almost always an option with the Sea Fury. Get separation and then turn back on them.
Stock it gets bullied, spaded it bullies.
I can’t even remember the last time my Sea Fury got shot down.
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I checked the update changelog and I dont see it
Many changes are not in the changelog
