If you could, how would you re-balance CAS in Ground Battles?

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1946

i would nerf the armorpiercing rounds in AA vehicles.

Ive seen people using AA as low SP TDs for then to moan when they are getting bombed in their second spawn, (especially with Germany and the Gepard) WAY to many times.

The AAs should be focused on the air, the name even say it.

Not being ground killing machines that ignores the air which endangers the team when the planes are starting to roll in.

I know some people will dislike this, but you can’t have both.

Don’t whine about CAS if you wont do something to counter it.

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1947

Remove all HUD/UI elements that are present in ground like scouted vics, hit markers etc. from being seen by planes. Let SPAA scout planes for ground vics. Delay the ability to spawn planes in a match to like 3-5 minutes. Remove the reduced spawn for CAS light vics get. Rebalance air spawns so we don’t have FnF AGM slingers spawning 15k from the battle immedietly. Reduce CAP loadouts, increase CAS loadouts.

This would be a massive step forward and require barely any work besides reworking air spawns for higher BRs.

1949

Oh the 40 rounds of apds the gepard gets, that can switch almost instantly? That’s why people are dying to planes?

1950

and when those rounds are gone, they can still kill light and some medium tanks, and they are trying it constantly.

Seeing someone using a Gepard as an AA is a rarety these days.

1951

Maybe they want to play ground battles hope this helps :)

1952

thats ok, i just don’t want to hear any whining when they are getting bombed.

Deal?

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1953

This is why CAS haters are ignored by Gajin.

1954

I love CAS, I have every single strike plane available spaded for RU and GER, even bought the su39 for the better TV missles over the TT variant and goofy radar. I have the pars heli in germany too.

CAS is not balanced all outside of like sub 5.0 GRB and 7.7-9.3 where SPAA actually threatens them. The only thing that kills a good CAS player is CAP or getting too greedy with your attack runs. Mamy players my self included just opt to suicide when we run out of ammo, since spawning back into a tank immedietly is more fun than spending 3 minutes rearming and climbing.

1955

CAS is relatively balanced from 3.7-10.7 (basically, the beginning of autocannon SPAA to the beginning of AGMs)

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1956

In spite of this thread and the many others on the forums. I do sometimes question the CAS problem, at least a little.

I just unlocked the Tracked Rapier and deciced to spade it in GSB.

First 4 matches, nothing, not a wink, no helis and no jets.

Then I get a game with both, totally stock 4 air kills (should have been 5 but a heli tanked a hit and RTBed)

I know GSB is a little different, and im not saying there isnt an issue, but I do find the irony that when I try to play/spade an SPAA, there isnt any CAS and then when there is, its not a major threat :P

1957

Much different* especially at the BR you’ve played.

That’s the one of the problems.
One game you might not see anything and get bored.
Next game you might see something that outranges you and you’re still bored.

1958

not broken lol

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1959

It’ll be a deal when there are two separately classified modes of grb and crb lol

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1960

For giving reasonable feedback to change air in grb?

1961

https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/335061677348445921?public_key=UOWlwLc8M1wOUKRPSEy9

Here is replay where CAS player jump into his CAS and start killing the entire team and keep spawning CAS after repeatly shot down.

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1962

For listing absolutely insane demands that have no logic behind them aside from “CAS OP!!! CAS OP!!!”

1963

If you think that’s insane, then it just confirms even more that CAS players truly have no idea how easy they have it or are acting willfully ignorant to how bad it is for the health of ground battles.

1964

Ok, so you want:

  • No player markers for your teammates
  • No scout markers
  • Let SPAA scout planes (as if SPAA gameplay wasn’t braindead enough)
  • An insanely dumb delay on spawning in
  • Remove CAS discount for scouting tanks (for no reason at all)
  • “rebalance” airspawns so you have to fly further (ontop of the spawn delay)

And ontop of all these insanely dumb nerfs, you want spawn cost for CAS to be INCREASED, and CAP (which is already far too cheap) decreased?

No wonder Gajin ignores yall.

1965
  1. They get birds eye anyways and higher tier thermals for easy viewing.
  2. See first point, but if not put it on a radar blip instead of having the flasher.
  3. That’s kind of already a thing with the voice callout, but there’s already random times they’ll pop up on map, do you know why? Is it a close to enemy airfield thing?
  4. It is not enjoyable seeing a Yak 9 with 1 assist 1:30 into a match.
  5. There should be no discount on the superior force of arms if there is no discount for the Ground in GRB.
  6. Man the airspawns for top tier literally just let them drop their ordinance and leave right away.

Also CAS is too cheap, CAP is maybe 100sp less?

1966

That will never happen, just at Gaijin will never look at your suggestions.

They make money on planes.

So better start use the AAs as intended or stop whining over getting bombed.