Ideal BR for the Stormartilerivagn 20.12.48 [POLL]

The KV has no right to be 4.3

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if i was in charge of balancing id put it to 5.3. My kill record (that wasnt reserve tier) is 17 kills in the 4.7 russian KV1, it would have been over 20 if i wasnt in a trio squad at the time

This is gaijin logic we have to think of, russian tanks are perfect to become an OP premium in their eyes

Regardless the only other medium you have is the T34 and the sherman 3/4 is a easy kill given it has the turret weakspot and even my t34 at 4.0 can go through the hull on the 3/4.

Gotta be honest best way for the sav to have a lineup is to wait for Finnish vehicles to give it a lineu
Imo the t34 is more op than the sav but thats because the 4.0 t34 is braindead

russian APHE seems to go through any armour as soon as its angled ill give you that. id put all T-34s up a fair bit as they feel like cheating.

gonna be waiting a long time. its not a top tier T-80 for the billionth time

Regardless the best chance for gaijin to move it would be if it has a lineup. 4.3 is non existent. The 3/4 stops being effective armor wise against any 4.0 t34 or nonbraindead panzer IV or sherman.

Imo composito is almost on par with the 3/4 poor angle armor but its stronger and has the side armor and 50 cal.

The fins can add the t34-76 from Germany or a model of that but with the german cupola.

They could add the T34-75 with the pak 40 at like 4.7

Sturmi could be 4.3 or higher depending on the model ect.

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the panzer 4 with the long 75mm is a firefly equal so using such a disgustingly badly balanced vehicle as the bar is not a good idea.

T-34 is peak russia thunder, the 76 in the finnish line is easily a 4.3 tank too.

pz4 point and click will always be strong, american players arent very good so ive never felt threatened unless its a firefly.

better pz4 but only a little better would be a fair 4.7 true

Could also gove sweden a good 4.7 spaa being the sisu 6x6 with the 23mm, would be a worse ZBSD or whatever the Chinese SPAA is called, maybe 4.0 or 4.3 rather than 4.0 given it can’t look down much or forward

Yeah checking statshark only about 400k games on the kv-1A, clearly not having a actual lineup makes people less interested in buying and playing said vehicle.

I can’t see gaijin moving the sav past 4.0 as most players would just ignore it all together

tbf if this sherman knew what he was doing or had APCR you should’ve died

All thise dead shermans you saw, sat there letting me fix my breach. I killed all of them once I got my gun back

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That sounds like a them issue imo… That italian sherman from your clip could’ve easily tried to shoot your front plate when you started pushing them yet they just kept trying to shoot your turret…

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lol

He could pen the turret neck but he keep shooting the worst spot

Un-nerfing APCR penetration and post-penetration would help place long-barrel Panzers where they belong. The only one that should be below 4.3 is the J due to turret traverse. I would place the F2 at 4.3, and the G/H at 4.7. The APCR round should pen between 175-190mm, and spall about as well as solid AP does from similar-size guns. If it did that, it would be pretty much equal to the 17-pdr except against extreme slopes where full caliber is better than APCR, but APCR’s higher velocity would give the German gun the advantage in long-range engagements.

Crazy how many longstanding balance issues can be fixed by just repealing old nerfs that long since have lost their meaning, isn’t it?

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while yes APCR and early gen APDS is intentionally gimped while APHE blatantly overperforms does cause firepower voids i dont think it would change much to boost APCR performance. the pzIV with long 75 will still be more of a firefly than a 75mm sherman

can agree that the traverse on the J was really bad. played them again recently with @Beeschurger at 4.7 to prove they are OP as hell. while it didnt make it impossible it was awkward like an M10 is (just as the first production panther does have issues)

I like the panzer iv

Also 2.3 spaa is atrocious better than the TD that is the LVKV but still bad. The M24 is a better SPAA lol

This thing has no place at 3.7!

10 crew slots for Sweden? Just why? I use six and it’s more than I’ll ever use in a battle

Diversity i like to play different vehicles for different maps, i do this with all nations

How dare u insult my beloved Pbv 301! We are not friends anymore

I got my first god mode award using it, killed a PzH2000 :)