I was wondering what everybody thinks i should grind: Italy, Israel or Britain?

I was wondering what everybody thinks i should grind?
Italy ground (for the leopard2a7HU and kf41)
Israel ground or Britain ground (i can also get good helis from them)
I know my best bet would probably be Germany ground if i want the leopard2a7HU but i can endure suffering for a marginal difference in the tank.

I have US ground and i enjoy playing the sep v2 alot, please come with suggestions as what u think. Reasons why i should not grind one of these and to why, and why i maybe should grind one of these nations and why.
I also would like to have gen 3 thermals and thats a big reason why i would want the black night or leo2a7HU, aps would also be nice tho.

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Italy ground because you get Leos. Then go for Italy air which is basically Britain air but slightly better

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Israel when a Hellenic ground subtree arrives (even if it doesn’t it’s not all that bad, pretty well off). For now Italy for top tier meta MBT, or Britain for high diversity of unique vehicles.

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I wouldnt commit to Britain at the moment if your goal is the BN or CR3TD. Neither are overly good tanks.

The BN is a slightly lackluster 11.7 with APS at 12.7 .

Maybe if the Challenger 2s got a single update it might be worth it, but at the moment I generally consider the TTs ended at 10.7. Though with the decompression. 11.7 stands a slim chance.

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Only grind Britain if you’re a masochist.

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Italy ,Israel and Britain is for masochist.

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Out of interest, do you have any interest in any of the vehicles prior to those few vehicles you mentioned?
I.E - are you wanting to play a diff nation purely for the top tier vehicles you mentioned?

Yes, but there probably are a few fun vehicles outside of the vehicles I mentioned

Israel all the way RAAAAA

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As israel main and lately uk too u are absolutely right

I have been playing War Thunder since 2015 and have fully grinded USA, Russia, and Germany air and ground trees. Recently I unlocked the F-16I Sufa, and honestly, the Spice-250 and Spice-1000 are just insane you can wipe out 9 players in a single run if you plan it right. Because of that, I would definitely say Israel is a great tech tree to look into. The Merkavas are kind of broken right now (Gaijin doesn’t seem to want to fix them), but overall it’s an amazing and unique tree with a lot of strong lineups. Also, fun fact I’ve worked around those jets in real life, and seeing them in the game feels awesome.

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They recently fixed trophy system on the dev, if that’s what your referring to.

Very cool indeed!

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wow you took the italy for the booring things in the tree … good luck

I was referring more to the armor values of the Merkavas in-game. I’m not that deep into the details, but from what I’ve seen and read from veteran War Thunder players, the main issue seems to be the armor modeling and a few other inconsistencies.
And yeah, it’s definitely cool! Most people will never get to experience what it’s like to call in a real airstrike and feel that shockwave from 200 meters away while watching an F-16C Barak drop a 2000 kg JDAM bunker-busting bomb absolutely incredible sight.

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Yea merkava missing alot of armor value

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British air tree if you want future content and an already solid tree for sure. They will be pretty insane in the coming year or so. They already have Typhoons, F-18s Gripens, most likely will be getting SU30’s, Rafales and the HAL Tejas too with India and a few more South African jets like the Atlas Cheetah they will also get F-35Bs and A’s and all the other cool little jets that are still being added like Hawks and Gnats. Italy AIR is pretty much dead in the water with not much left to add since they or Hungary don’t develop much.

Ground tree for UK is a toss up but Italy has nice wheelie boys and IFV’s and a 2A7 to top it off.

So overall if you want a solid line up combined of Ground, Heli’s and Jets with lots of future content then go for Britain. If you only care for Ground then go for Italy.

Don’t grind any of these nations for top tier, maybe for top tier air but still no.

In general they usually have better WW2 stuff and cold war stuff.

I’ve spaded all of Italy and it is okay with air pretty much the whole way (almost all it’s planes get .50 cals from reserve) and it’s ground is really fun until pretty much only rank 8 when it gets annoying, and even then if you are good at the game the ariete AMV is actually pretty fun.

For Britain, if you can get past solid shot and mid to bad mobility, it is somewhat okay in ground. But I mean it’s pretty hard to ignore those two things. Britain air is pretty good for the most part, though suffers in comparison to other nations later on

I haven’t touched Israel since it was released, probably never will. It is much harder grind due to higher RP requirements and started at 0 level crew in rank 4. Most of it’s vehicles are in other nations, and the merkavas are almost as bad as the ariete and cr2

I forgot:
Lastly as a recommendation: Italy obviously (I am biased). It is actually really fun if you have even a modicum of skill.

Also Britain as second option, but in reality it’s a lot harder to play even if you have good skill. Solid shot will really sell you out a LOT, and I have had the L27A1 shatter in the most strange positions.

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Wrong, Freccia is way better.

Centauro I 120 is quite good also, but maybe not for all. Arietes can be hard, with their armor and internal modules placement, but at least AMV due to boosted mobility can be placed in a setup. Also, depite people say that OTOMATIC is bad, I still use it even at 12.0. I especially love to spawn OTO, when our spawn is surrounded by enemies)
While I 120 with recon drone can also be used for scouting if have just spawned and there is not much time left till the end of the battle, when you are winning.
Haven’t got SAMP/T yet.

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Those two vehicles are vehicles i think i would personally enjoy, playing ariete sounds like torture/challenge.

I wouldn’t say i’m bad at the game but i still don’t want to play with a tank with no armour and bad ammo rack placement.

I also forgot to mention i usually play alot of SRE but not at the moment, so that’s the biggest reason i would want thr leopard2a7HU