From the administrator’s response on the issue website, it seems that gaijin intends to use this 6kg TNT shell as the main ammunition for the PLZ05? But you can clearly see that this ammunition is a rocket extended range grenade that is occupied by a rocket engine, making it the least powerful foreign trade ammunition in the DDB series, far less than the ordinary HE of other 155mm self-propelled guns in the game. The sacrifice of power for this ammunition with a thinner and longer shape and rocket engine for a larger range has no meaning in the game
Even among the foreign trade ammunition in the DDB series, DDB0102 is far more suitable for joining the game than 03, let alone the fact that in reality, PLA artillery mostly uses unguided shells with better accuracy, greater power, and more suitable cylindrical ammunition for entering the game
Pay attention to the text “PLZ05-155” and “DHL” on these photos. This is the ammunition actually used by PLZ05, which is completely different from the DDB03 in the game, and uses DHL high-energy explosives instead of TNT
So why did you choose the least powerful ammunition, DDB03, which you have never equipped before, as the main ammunition for PLZ05 among so many types of ammunition, Gaijin? Weakening the performance of self-propelled howitzers makes them compete with World War II tanks, which is completely against history and will only appear ridiculous
In addition, during the developer’s live broadcast, the loading speed of the PLZ05 was 6 seconds, while in the test suit it was 7.5 seconds. I would like to ask which is the official data. Moreover, the PLZ05, like the 2S19, can fire the first four shells in 15 seconds, which is 5 seconds per round. I believe that modern self-propelled artillery like this should be restored to higher performance and compete with vehicles from similar eras, rather than weakening their ability to participate in World War II battles later
Well in the accepted issue that you have quoted, the author did propose use DDB02 to replace in game DDB03. Of course better still if Gaijin can add the newer shells that is actually being in service with PLA, but not sure whether we can get the data from public source.
Oh, I forgot to mention it. My last few photos are introducing the new PLA ammunition, DLXA/PLZ05, which is the most commonly used ammunition for PLZ05 and often appears in CCTV China’s official media reports. I don’t know why Gaijin ignored him. Now there are suggestions for this ammunition. Welcome to take a look
Gaijin:We don’t need rigorous data to weaken a tank.
When the player submits the information, gaijin will say it is not credible。
Is this a double standard?
Summary of PLZ05 issues in dev server
- The vehicle tilt upwards strangely (reported and accepted)
- 7.5 sec reload time instead of 6 sec (reported before dev server, not sure if accepted)
- ammo count 25 instead of 30 (not reported yet)
- Using export DDB03 shells which is not in PLA service (reported and no response yet)
- Should have hydraulic adjustable transmission (reported and accepted)
- Missing spall liners (not reported yet)
- Missing digital camo (not reported yet)
Thank you for your summary. Speaking of which, I think modern self-propelled artillery should not stay at around 7. x BR, but should participate in modern combat. Perhaps it would be a good idea to equip self-propelled artillery with unmanned aerial vehicles with laser pointing capabilities, laser guided shells, and lower initial velocity propellant options, and let them enter more advanced combat to perform curved fire support
None of DDB01、02 and 03 have been equipped by PLA. Gaijin know PLZ05 has a 12kg TNT shell, and they know PLZ05 has DLXA/PLZ05-155 shell, but they dont add it just because they “dont know” if DLAX/PLZ05-155 has 12kg TNT. Don’t know? Don’t want.
Based statement
Plz05 needs to get better weapons!It doesn’t make sense compared to other partners of the same type
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/8UjTWNVG8gHt
In this report, I discussed in detail that PLZ05 cannot use DDB03 and why DDB03 cannot be used, but gaijin does not have any logical answer, but a vague “NOT A BUG”, is the administrator’s brain normal?
When the admin said “there is no direct mention of PLZ05 in your source” and closed my report on that ground. But when I found the report that was accepted by the administrator, I found out that there was no mention of PLZ05 in it either, but the administrator still passed the report on that ground.
When I questioned him with this report that was accepted by the admin, the admin closed my report twice in a row without any reason, like a clown who was annoyed and angry when he was caught cheating, I need a reason, why?A 6kg TNT equivalent 155mm self-propelled gun, in contrast to 10-14kg TNT equivalent shells from other countries, gaijin, congratulations, you managed to turn the PLZ05 into a laughing stock.
The classic discrimination from GAIJIN has no other reason
Change in today dev server:
- Chassis tilting issue fixed
- Moving suspension implemented (!)
- HE shell TNT mass nerfed to 8.2kg
- Ammo count increased to 30