Hi I’m a F16a block 10 and 15 player and i just unlock the the ADF and the grind is bad, everyone has 120s and its impossible to evade them. In the block 10 you only get 6 aim 9L and there short range everyone else have long rage or medium range trying to get a kill is a night mare i have lost alot of sl play them don’t know why War Thunder put them there or thought about it please fix this because it would still be fair if its 11.3 since the f4e has the am 7 and a ok radar.
Smartest opinion given by American main
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Lmfao what, comparing F-16A to F-4E what. Or have 16A on same BR as F-4S,insane. Average US main opinion.
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Ah yes, some of my favorite documentaries detail the amazing dogfights between J-35s and F-16s. Considering they are definitely technological equals and made at the same time.
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Block 10 only get aim 9L and 6 of them and there shit at 12.7 witch is basically 13.0 everything has aim 120 or long range missile witch you can’t doge.
6* 9L and supersonic 3gen airframe @ 11,3 lol whatever meanwhile J35XS:
What about 12.0, since then it will face f4s and Mig-23
You should have learned how to play on top tier instead of bombing bases.
And actually a good example of why US mains have a bad reputation.
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The best way i think is give f16a or adf 9m and it can still in 13.0
cuz jas39a and f15a both have 9m and stay in 13.0
Meanwhile Netz:
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How about it’s fine where it is. 9Ls are all aspect missiles F-4s have rear aspect missiles. It is an amazing dog fighter, F-4s are not.
yes, put F16A and F104S together, cant wait to see another TopGun2 but F104S fight against F16
i remember that only J8F and AV8B+/Harrier FA.2 have FOX3 in 13.0, and F14s are in your side, so you may need to improve oneself rather than complaining about others
Another day another US main making a thread asking for ridiculous BR decreases
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Yeah…
Having the one of the most (if not the most) OP 4th gen airframe for A-A battles/dogfights, and ask it replaced on BR of F-4S/J and MiG-23ML(D) (3rd gen overall)…
Sounds like a real skill issue.
I thinks better about US mains.
(Not so good as IT, UK, and J, tho, but still…)
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Well, as F-4S enjoyer - 4S is reasonable capable dogfighter, especially for his mass/size.
I outturn F-14s, and MiG-23MLs on F-4S.
Yes, it’s a skill issue, but still a good reault for missile train, which must perform only long-range strikes, and bombing runs.
Constant upteirs ruin that BR bracket anyways, are you sure you want to be in an F-5C fighting an F-16? Because that’s what happens if you put it at 12.0. It’s balanced where it is right now so it will stay where it is right now.
On F-5C - “Oh hell naw”.
On F-5E - “Let’s dance”.
On F-20A (if i have one) - “You dare oppose me, mortal?!”.
I pretty used to uptiers, so i just learn to take it peacefully.
In the end - it’s no shame in defeat to stronger enemy, but it a great honour to win the one.
While I agree with you on the last part there’s really no point in making the 11.0-12.0 bracket suffer more than it already does. The F-16 is a fantastic dogfighter, only held back by the missiles. You seem like a good player so I’m sure it just needs some breaking in and you’re gonna do good :)
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Well, yes.
If for experienced players uptier is just a little uncomfort condition, to newbies it’s a big problem and win/lose condition.
So be good, if those poor 11.0-12.0 boyos no more suffer from vets, mastered their planes, and with “Ace” pilots (which a really big advantage).
Or just make matchmaker based on statistics, so pros will play with each other, normals with their guys, and newbies with those, who just started too.
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