I think F-14 are became way much overpowered on current meta after multipathing

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Every one of you advocating to put the F-14A at 12.0 with only an aim-9L upgrade conveniently forget that is has no All-aspect PD, no HMD and no modern rwr (actually a very terrible one, I’d pick the SPO-15 over this any day). All of those can be found on virtually all 12.0 jets.

If those premium players still haven’t learned how to face what is by far the worst fox-3 in the game 2 years later, how do you expect them to do any better against better fox-3 down the line? I can clap them with sarh just as easily.

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Alvis speaking fax🤌🤌

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People will stop complaining as time goes on and players in the game learn to fly below 60m instead of 100m. Now is too early to complain about anything. Get adjusted to it.

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This is why I AIM-54s call it “bozo wiper”

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The issue with that is, is that many trees in WT are 60m or taller, while also having wonky hitboxes. It is very hard to fly below 60m when you have to fly between trees.

Players will eventually adapt, but the F-14A should be higher than 11.7 regardless.

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Its their fault for not learning and skipping the ranks.

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They should give it AMRAAMs as well.

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If you know then why you make topic like this. All ARH actually need buff, cause look at this. 4 km launched AMRAAM and i just decoy it with no issue. https://youtu.be/HNRBzzAFpo4

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How on Earth would an F-14B at 12.3 with Aim9Ms and 54Cs be more powerful than an F-4 or Tornado with ARH missiles that completely outperform the Pheonix in everything but range and possibly max speed? This is beside the fact that the Phantom ICE gets the IRCCM 9Ls, and the Tornado gets 9Ms already. If the F-14B got 9ms and 130s then make it 12.7 like the Tornado F3, but if it doesn’t carry 120s then it needs to stay lower because it can’t compete.

Stop trying to make it seem like Pheonixes are comparable to Aim-120s and such. They are terrible missiles in comparison.

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54s could pull 24 to 25G irl so, they can move to 12.0/12.3BR easily if they gets reworking.

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They don’t in game, so it doesn’t really matter. Also the 14A would need 9Ls and the 14B would need 9Ms if they went up too. Until they do rework it they shouldn’t move.

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Since the F-14A we have now is modeled after the 1977 SAC one so, the highest AAM it can carry is the AIM-9Ls that is tested at China Lake that same year.

If you want the F-14A to receive the AIM-9M, you need a late model F-14A that has TCS/Bombcat mod and ALR-67 in the game.

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My bad, I misspoke. Meant 9Ls. I’ll go make that correction. Thank you.

Correction made.

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F-14D would be 12.7 BR. IR AAM stock maybe 2x AIM-9M

This

F-14A late model in folder with F-14A Early or F-14B and would be 12.3

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You can’t learn anything about Radar or missiles by playing props.

I mostly blame Gaijin for players knowing nothing about the game. There is nothing in WT that accurately explains what things do, and how to use it.

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Why would it be 12.3? 12.0 would make more sense, it’d be like the bombcat with worse engines and less a2g.

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Let’s not keep putting 9Ms at 12.3 where they don’t belong, yeah?

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Honestly 9M bombcat would be worse f15 so just keep 12.0, no 9m untild f14d

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Well, I am glad that players from both sides came here and shared discussions about F-14.
[nerfing BR with a better missile will be fine] or [it is just a noob’s laziness about not learning and stupidity problem]

Discussions about F-14 were interesting and changed my point of view a little bit. not much.

Maybe I overrated the threat of AIM-54 bit because, at the moment when I created this topic, I was dead tired of ‘losing half of the team and becoming one of the heavily outgunned sides’. I apologize for comparing it with AIM-120. I might’ve gone haywire at that moment :/

Still, F-14 with AIM-54 feels too powerful when ‘only one side of the team has Tomcat’.
when both teams have American players with F-14(just like when we had matches on “Danger Zone”). still, They rule the match and have better effectiveness than the rest of the planes, but feel balanced more than a single-sided slaughter show.
Maybe~ we can watch a few more weeks to prove [Is Tomcats OP or not on current meta] till some of the newcomers adapt to lower multipath.

Personally, I still feel Tomcats are annoying now but with a much-chilled brain, I think I can wait till ‘Tiny’ BR decompression which usually comes on a ‘large’ major update that impacts the game experience. (like Apex Predator or Air Superiority.)

Anyway,

I feel slight sadness that you guys missed the first opinion I proposed. but everyone is concerned about the [Send F-14 to higher BR with better missiles] part…
I thought sending F-14 to a higher BR was a ‘Plan B’ type of opinion when I wrote this topic. :'|

So… How about you guys thinking about the ‘improving stock modification’ and ‘proper guide provided by gaijin’ ideas?
I think it also can’t be a proper problem solver but let those ‘non-premium stock grinders’ who are having pain in the asses have a better experience than giving none.

With free chaff, it will be lot much easier to defeat AIM-54 when notching. than without chaffs. right?

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I like both of those. WT desperately needs well-made tutorials. Nothing is explained at all, and it really harms the quality of players.

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