I just found the best Abrams for now

you tell me

literally every time abrams is mentioned there are a 100 us mains whining about how their tank is actually somehow the worst one

Muh turret ring that actually is a nothing burger problem is making our tanks have <40% WRs.

Turret ring, hydraulic pump location, turret basket, lacking hull armor and spall liners.

Those are the reasons why Abrams is so easy to kill.

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1 shot at the turret ring = death or half of the tank is gone

Still top 3 MBT in the game.

Lol no, even Type-10 and Leclerc is better than Abrams.

Abrams is Top 5 at best.

I might understand Type 10 but Leclerc is just a neutered M1.

Leclerc is better due to having constant 5 second reload and LWS, nothing more.

Leclercs have plethora of cons when compared to M1s. What’s LWS good for at 12.0 either ?

If you say this then we don’t need to discuss further.

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I did not say this. Quote me where I did.

I also did not say this. You are REALLY grasping for straws with your argument. Not once did I say the Abrams is bad. I also did not mention the M1.

Last time I checked, Buff is making something better than it should be. A fix is making it perform like it should perform.

Laser focused on fixes, not appeasing your leave the Abrams alone mental games.

Did I mention win rates? What are you even going on about?

I never said it was the worst, far from it but it’s not correctly modeled. Are you saying SOME tanks can be modeled and perform correctly but the Abrams shouldn’t be allowed to?

You anti-Abrams guys are just funny. You attack US players for pointing out and proving there are actually bugs when it concerns the Abrams with poor and weak arguments about it already performing well. I don’t give a flying f about your opinions. I’m not asking for “buffs”. I’m asking for fixes. Two different things but you are all focused on win rates. Let me tell you something, the only form of “balance” Gaijin does is mess with reload speed. So cry harder when the Abrams actually gets fixed.

This Oh no, the Abrams is actually better IRL than in game mentality is really funny to me.

To be fair, USA players focused on this as demonstration that the Abrams is broken for years now. Can’t have it both ways. I want all tanks modeled correctly, including Abrams, but it should be low priority compared to those that seriously need it (ZTZ-99A and the rest of the Chinese top-tier MBTs, for example).

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Low priority? Why? US is the most played nation in the game. The bugs affect over 7 different models of Abrams. Hardly a low priority

Thank you for showing why USA should be low priority.

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Thank you for showing your hatred for US

Its nice to have but its not game changing
I would take good armor turret armor on lws

Leclerc’s turret armor is more than enough to stop incoming shells (especially SXII model’s) not to mention having constant 5 second reload plus mobility and LWS advantage while not having turret basket and wrong hydraulic pump location makes better or equal to Abrams

Idk if its equal to the abrams and its not like abrams is good now with the turret basket.
Leclerc turret armor isnt very good, strong top tier shells will pen most of the turret area so yea u have constans 5 sec reload and lws but no armor is a big disadvantge and the shell isnt the best either compare to the abrams

No, I’m genuinely curious as to how LWS is helping you in common engagements.

Tank lazes you and fires it’s dart. It’s pretty much impossible to react to that in time.
You’re getting engaged by IR/TV weaponry, you don’t get a warning at all.

It pretty much has the only use against ATGMs and Laser ordnance, but even those systems don’t need to give you a warning until it’s basically too late by just launching the missile to your general area and hard target you for the last few seconds.

So yeah, depending on what you’re getting engaged with and the skill level of the enemy, LWS at 12.0 is ranging from being niche at best to completely and utterly useless at worst.

Your LWS fixation is honestly weird.

Read 10 posts up and you’ll see yourself talking about M1s having armor that doesn’t work.

My bad for forgetting to add plural form, but at this point it’s more than obvious to see I’m talking about M1s, not just about the one at 10.7.

Your check was poorly done then.
Buffing something is tied to just increasing it’s performance, how you’re doing it doesn’t matter. In WT you could buff a tank by simply giving it a lower BR.

Bottom line, changing M1s for the better, especially in so many ways, simply isn’t possible while our max BR is 12.0.

Yes, laser focused on a fix that just serves as a scapegoat for some heavy skill issues.

Those are the same things.
You’re asking for handholds which is obvious that M1s don’t need at their current BR.