It would be this size
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At least with computer modelling we now know that leoperd is better than Abrams
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Didn’t everyone know that the Leo is better in wt?
He likes to drift between the different NATO tank topics to try and bait people.
Not sure what’s up with that. Probably not enough attention from his family or something.
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lmao a sep graveyard since no spall liner for usa.
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And this shall Keep happening untill the army put spall liners in their SEP V2’s
this shall continue untill gaijin put them on sepv2s and guess their real armour since they guess about every russ tank.
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There’s a bug report about the Abrams missing spall liner that was acknowledged by Gaijin (although they’re taking their time fixing it, it’s been a month)
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Eh i dont think theyre going to, it would be a completely different kind of thing since it not the sMe S the spall liners we have in game, if its implemented as i believe it shouldnt be. Itd be either minimal, or the strongest depending on how gaijin think it should work.
It depends on how they interpret it, the options pretty much are:
- “It doesn’t work at all”
- “It’s only for HEAT shells”
- “It’s not as efficient as others”
- “It works just as well” (the least likely option)
Currently I think the best we can hope for is zero spall whatsoever from HEAT/HE shells and a minor debuff in spall reduction performance (in comparison to the spall liners in game currently).
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The bug report is for a Kevlar liner so the best way to implement it is to just reduce the post pen spalling. A good middle ground between spall liner and what we have currently. The main issue I think is that neck though, if they implement the Kevlar liner you will still get nuked by that turret ring.
(this likely already has been posted)
by this time the most modern USMC tank was the M1A1 SA, this document wording(specifically when they say Tank/Turret) does lead me to believe there was DU in the Hull of these tanks, and whilst the same wording also could make one think the DU was present ONLY on USMC tanks, we know for a fact DU was in the Turrets of M1A2 tanks, so again the question is if the technology worked and was effective why not used it on their most advanced tank?
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the kevlar liner doesnt really appear to exist in the Abrams, and the turret ring shouldnt be a Weakspot i dont think anybody disagrees, im pretty sure that irl even if by miracle the ring was hit from the fron the shel would essentially be crushed by the cheeks
Do you have the NRC License extension they were talking about? Additionally, this was right before the SEPv3 came out so Gaijin could just say “oh but it was only for the SEPv3, nothing in game,” or they could just say “tanks and turrets are just used interchangeably here, they don’t mention the hulls.”
i think i do let me check, im pretty sure what i do have dates back to 2016 which would essentially be 1 year before the m1a2 sepv3 entered service
It does, it’s the second-to-last layer before a thin steel casing that from what I can tell is just there for things to be welded to. At the very least the liner would help to stop most if not all spalling from HEAT/HE rounds.
i thought he meant the “tarp” spall liners we already have in game
I mean that’s what Gaijin has narrowly defined a spall liner to be, rather than “a liner that reduces spall” it has to be “a liner that reduces spall draped like a carpet on the walls.”
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They would’ve still occurred.
The “they should have DU” would still occur irrelevant of if the hull armor of SEP 1 & 2 was 360 or ~480mm thick.
as for what i have i really cant say rn, its quite late here and my eyesight is really poor so reading things that small is hard but im gonna send it to you anyways. im not sure if its what was referred to by others but if i remember right it does refer specifically to the document gaijin mentioned.
edit: i forgot to mention this is amendment No.10 and despite trying i couldnt find anything else predating it, so as far as we know the number couldve been 5 or 5000,